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1 posted on 02/21/2011 1:17:02 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Another hellhole heard from.


2 posted on 02/21/2011 1:21:56 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: neverdem
Thanks for posting. I really like Hanson. If only we had him as Secretary of State!
3 posted on 02/21/2011 1:26:52 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: neverdem

Unfortunately, this write-up seems to raise more questions than answers.


4 posted on 02/21/2011 1:28:51 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: ml/nj

self ping - important artcle


5 posted on 02/21/2011 1:28:51 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: neverdem

“I arrived the day Lionel Ritchie was playing a 20th-anniversary anti-American concert commemorating Gaddafi’s heroic resistance to the Reagan bombing.”

Fascinating.


6 posted on 02/21/2011 1:32:06 PM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: neverdem

I like VDH. He is one of the more rational informed commentators.


8 posted on 02/21/2011 1:46:25 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: neverdem
Cannot the administration at last state that it supports non-violent, gradual transitions to consensual government, institutionalized secular human rights, and an independent judiciary...?"

No, Mr. Hansen. They can't. It's not in their DNA.

9 posted on 02/21/2011 1:50:45 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: neverdem
Cannot the administration at last state that it supports non-violent, gradual transitions to consensual government, institutionalized secular human rights, and an independent judiciary...?"

No, Mr. Hansen. They can't. It's not in their DNA.

10 posted on 02/21/2011 1:51:01 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: neverdem

IMHO, Obama was behind this and knows it will result in $10 gas. Just what he wanted. I’m sure he wasn’t thinking it would get this big this fast, but then he is the operating without a brain.


11 posted on 02/21/2011 2:00:23 PM PST by MotherRedDog
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To: neverdem

IMHO, Obama was behind this and knows it will result in $10 gas. Just what he wanted. I’m sure he wasn’t thinking it would get this big this fast, but then he is the operating without a brain.


12 posted on 02/21/2011 2:00:30 PM PST by MotherRedDog
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To: neverdem

The headline is a bit misleading, since it presents a good picture of life under Qaddafi, but very little about what will follow—except that they will hate America, as usual.


13 posted on 02/21/2011 2:01:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem
...wet garbage and sewage in the streets; an oil-exporter with massive pot-holes and no asphalt to fix them; almost every room, office, or hallway in Tripoli with peeling paint, exposed wiring, and something broken; the airport a disaster; almost every human action a possible violation of some government statute.

"Hellholes" are the fruit of the Muslim religion... Great for the few thugs at the top - hell for the ordinary people...

16 posted on 02/21/2011 2:05:31 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: neverdem
Since all governments and figures in the Middle East seem transitory, it would be far better to establish a policy that is principled and constant, no matter the ideologies and authoritarians involved.

Sarah Palin needs to hook up with Victor Davis Hanson (politically)... he needs to be part of the team.

17 posted on 02/21/2011 2:11:29 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: neverdem
Why did it take so long...Finally...:

Libyan Muslim leaders order followers to rebel

18 posted on 02/21/2011 2:19:50 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: neverdem
Look at what was done when Wheelus AFB was abandoned.
24 posted on 02/21/2011 3:09:31 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: neverdem

Qaddafy: the Obama of Libya.


25 posted on 02/21/2011 3:25:49 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: neverdem
5) Libyans seemed to me terrified of Egyptians, including the tens of thousands of illegal-alien Egyptians in their country.
Interesting to see someplace besides Europe and the US having an illegal alien problem.

The oil fields in their lightly populated country are a little too near for their comfort to the border of the oil-needy, overpopulated Egyptian powerhouse. The oil-rich border regions between the two countries will be of interest in the days ahead.
Interesting indeed. If the Egyptians make a grab, will Libya yell for help from the US? Just as importantly, would we do so?

27 posted on 02/21/2011 4:35:11 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: neverdem
IMHO, NOW is the time for JOHN BOLTON to step in and officially construct that Presidential Exploratory Committee for 2012, if he has not alread done so.

FOREIGN POLICY IS LIABLE TO BE THE FRONT AND CENTER ISSUE IN EARLY 2012 IN THE EARY PRIMARIES, particularly if that whole region goes to hell in a handbasket or nears such a horrendous possibility. Ambassador Bolton will wipe the floor with his GOP competitors on foreign policy and then Obama--for Soetero's complete incompetence, abject foolishessness and outrigh perilous danger in this current situation (or any other Democrat takers) due to his deep, saged, well-aged and thoughtful if not excellent, strategic grasp of what we as a nation need to do on the World Stage in the case of such anarchy, uprising, violence, destabilization and chaos, all emanating from Middle East, Gulf, South Asia and North Africa regions.


28 posted on 02/21/2011 5:46:52 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (IF Obama is REELECTED (not an impossibility) then what'll that have said re: what America's become?)
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To: neverdem
1. Syria won't fall. Assad may be a dictator but he allows more economic growth and other freedoms than others. Also Syria is very diverse with 20% Christian (Maronites, Chaldean Catholics, Syriacs etc.) and a lot of Allawis, Druze, Shias, Ismailis, and various schools of Sunnis.

2. Iran is a different matter.

3. Libya is a paradigm -- there is a movement to separate themselves from Arabs and Islam by considering themsevels Imazighen (Berbers), but I doubt it has much strength, though I hope it could win.
35 posted on 02/22/2011 4:50:12 AM PST by Cronos ("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks neverdem. All he has to do is last the next couple of weeks and the riots will run out of gas; then the real crackdown will start, causing a big outflow of Libyan exiles to neighboring countries, probably Tunisia and Egypt, and also to Europe and the US.


36 posted on 02/22/2011 3:29:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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