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To: screaminsunshine

Palin was picked for VP by McCain because he thought she was a nobody. McCain and the elites were trying to lose that election. Heck, by the end McCain was basically campaigning for Obie Won.


7 posted on 02/07/2011 1:25:58 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: GeronL
"Palin was picked for VP by McCain because he thought she was a nobody. McCain and the elites were trying to lose that election."

Gov Palin was a "Hail Mary". McCain was never electable. Without Gov. Palin, Obama might have won 49 states.

17 posted on 02/07/2011 1:36:37 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: GeronL
Heck, by the end McCain was basically campaigning for Obie Won.

Since Obama was actively supporting McCain, your comment has merit. Before Obama was officially the nominee, McCain had been savaged by Democrat "Birthers." The Democrats were correct. They became quite well informed about the constitutional requirements for natural born citizenship, and published dozens of cogent analysis, and almost as many analysis by legal academics, the most complete being U of Arizona's Professor Gabriel Chin's "Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President: Eleven Months and a Hundred Yards Short of Citizenship"

Only those inside know when Hillary lost the party's support in favor or Obama, but in February and again in April 2008 Obama's team, Claire McCaskill and Pat Leahy respectively sponsored a bill and a resolution to pretend that McCain's issue had been resolved - Panama's Coco Solo was not made sovereign territory until a year after McCain's birth, and he was born about 100 yards off base in any case, thus Professor Chin's title. All senators signed Pat Leahy's bill, in which Leahy, in hearings agreed with testimony form HSA Director and Judge Michael Chertoff:

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy."

You could call that campaigning for Obama if McCain knew he could not win. It also served the purpose that no Republican dared to raise eligibility issues concerning Obama, who was more clearly ineligible than McCain. Most legal conjecture has either a supreme court interpretation of natural born citizenship including the foreign born children of U.S. citizens in the military (which just happens to be the title of Claire McCaskill's Feb 2008 Senate Bill - which failed to pass). The more direct approach, and more proper, is to amend the Constitution to include McCain's class (which is this writer's preference). But our framers absolutely abhored allowing someone whose parents did not have sole allegiance to our Constitution gain the power of the presidency. We are learning how correct they were.

Glen Beck is absolutely correct about the socialist/ Islamist alliance. The Soviets were very sophisticated in fomenting religious fervor to destabilize the Middle East, and created an extensive training program for potential Muslim leaders, such as the the East German School from which Obama's Muslim cousin, Odinga, now sharing the leadership with the landslide Christian winner of the presidential election in Kenya. Muslim Odinga's son's name is Fidel. The Soviets established a KGB agent as Gamil Nasser's defense secretary.

Beck's best source is David Horowitz, who knows the far left from the inside, having been an editor at Ramparts, where Obama's Energy Secretary, John Holdren, was a frequent contributor. Horowitz' book, Unholy Alliance, is a blueprint for the Marxist/Islamist alliance. Horowitz must still have connections with the Marxist inner circle of which he was once an elite member. (Horowitz' "Shadow Party", while it didn't anticipate Obama's accession, was correct about most everything else, and provides background on many of Obama's cadre from the perspective of their old left activities.

It is unfortunate that Beck has been taken in by Zuhdi Jasser, a presumably peaceful, but observant Muslim. Glen hasn't asked the right questions. Zuhdi, when cornered, admits that he subscribes to the Mohammed's "blood liable", and does not accept Israel's right to its homeland. Jasser is indeed a a master of Tacquia, calling Israel "Occupied territory." Search Pam Geller, whose interview exposing Jasser is on line, or the merciless and brilliant Debbie Schlussel, who exposed Jasser years ago. Jasser would say nothing about the young Christian convert fighting the courts and Islamic organizations. Rifka Barry, whose death was a certainty had she been returned, who had already lost her right eye to her brother, and who would have been killed for apostasy by her father or her brother - and honor killing.

Beck has done much good. Let's just assume he and his research staff are naive. Beck's blindness about our greatest Chief Justice, John Marshall, our first Chief Justice, John Jay, the heroic abolitionist judge and congressmen who initiated and drove the 14th Amendment, must be assumed to be the virtual certainty that using his public platform to expose the ineligibility of Obama would certainly result in injuries, and Beck would be charged with incitement.

34 posted on 02/07/2011 6:47:30 PM PST by Spaulding
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