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Slain U.S. judge's ruling upheld in immigrant case
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/4/11 | Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer

Posted on 02/04/2011 6:39:17 PM PST by SmithL

SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal appeals court has upheld $78,000 in damages to illegal immigrants who were held at gunpoint by a rancher in the southern Arizona desert, a case that prompted death threats against a federal judge who was fatally shot last month in Tucson.

U.S. District Judge John Roll was one of six people slain Jan. 8 when a gunman opened fire outside a supermarket at a crowd of constituents meeting with Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., who was critically wounded. Jared Lee Loughner, 22, is being held in the slayings.

Roll, 63, was killed nearly three years after ruling in the case of the rancher, Roger Barnett, who found the migrants in a dry creekbed near his 22,000-acre property in March 2004. They said he had threatened to shoot them or turn his dog on them, called them racial names and kicked one of the women.

Barnett denied assaulting or threatening them but acknowledged holding them while summoning the Border Patrol.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 9thcircus; activistjudge; illegalaliens; juryjackpot
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Yeah, from the 9th Circus.
1 posted on 02/04/2011 6:39:24 PM PST by SmithL
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just shoot traspassers


2 posted on 02/04/2011 6:42:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: SmithL

They say you shouldn’t speak ill of the dead.

But it was merely a federal judge.

Spit.


3 posted on 02/04/2011 6:43:13 PM PST by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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To: SmithL
"the case "sends a very important message that people cannot take the law into their hands.""

That is not the way things used to work when the country was founded. Besides, doesn't NO TRESPASSING mean something?

What about those folks in AZ who tackled and disarmed the leftist shooter?

4 posted on 02/04/2011 6:44:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SmithL
Dear Liberals,

I want a divorce. You take the illegals, the debt and all your taxes. I'll take my freedom, my liberty and a government the believes in less is more.

Signed,

I hate you.

5 posted on 02/04/2011 6:46:08 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Blood Libel Media, serving Satan since 1950.)
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To: GeronL
near his 22,000-acre property

This might have been the salient point. You can't hold (or shoot) somebody for trespassing if they aren't actually on your property.

6 posted on 02/04/2011 6:52:52 PM PST by Valpal1 ("No clever arrangement of bad eggs ever made a good omelet." ~ C.S. Lewis)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

fwiw

this was from a european newspaper...
scary if true

http://www.eutimes.net/2011/01/top-us-federal-judge-assassinated-after-threat-to-obama-agenda/


7 posted on 02/04/2011 6:54:10 PM PST by freedommom
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Besides, doesn't NO TRESPASSING mean something?

Maybe if it read:

NO PASAR POR FAVOR

But even then you couldn't do anything if they declined your polite request.

What about those folks in AZ who tackled and disarmed the leftist shooter?

They will be sued for any damages they did to him, including psychological ones.

8 posted on 02/04/2011 6:56:17 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Valpal1

Yes. I think it’s legitimate to hold illegal trespassers until the law arrives to deal with them. But it’s possible that this rancher went beyond the limits of defending his property.

From everything I’ve heard, this was a very decent judge, unlikely to have made an activist liberal decision.

I’d want to read the documents before condemning him. If, as this report says, it was “near” his property, then that does indeed raise problems.


9 posted on 02/04/2011 6:56:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SmithL

‘Migrants’? Try ‘illegal aliens’, then I’ll take this news item seriously. Imagine if this were reversed - American farmers illegally crossing into Mexico, trespassing on a Mexican farmer’s land, and then suing that Mexican for how they weren’t treated nicely enough. Sound ridiculous? That’s because this ruling was ridiculous.


10 posted on 02/04/2011 7:00:44 PM PST by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: Cicero

The issue to me is “illegal aliens”. What right do those leaches have to access to our courts. If they hadn’t broken numerous laws in the first place they wouldn’t have been held at gunpoint. That is the problem I have with this judge’s ruling, and why I don’t especially mourn his death.


11 posted on 02/04/2011 7:01:35 PM PST by cbvanb
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To: freedommom

That link is Popup City. Yuck. Alt-F4 for the save.


12 posted on 02/04/2011 7:05:31 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Blood Libel Media, serving Satan since 1950.)
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To: Cicero

According to the article they were only “near” his property, so they weren’t trespassing.


13 posted on 02/04/2011 7:09:06 PM PST by Valpal1 ("No clever arrangement of bad eggs ever made a good omelet." ~ C.S. Lewis)
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To: freedommom

It’s the SVR, the external security branch of what used to be the KGB.

I don’t think I’d put much faith in what they might have to say, At least I’d need some really solid independent confirmation.


14 posted on 02/04/2011 7:21:01 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: freedommom

It’s the SVR, the external security branch of what used to be the KGB.

I don’t think I’d put much faith in what they might have to say, At least I’d need some really solid independent confirmation.


15 posted on 02/04/2011 7:21:07 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Valpal1

Were they in Mexico or in our country,Why do the courts give this trash the same rights as Americans?


16 posted on 02/04/2011 7:22:18 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

I like that. Can we have sort of a class action divorce here?!


17 posted on 02/04/2011 7:34:11 PM PST by Shimmer1 (When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila and salt.)
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“A federal appeals court has upheld $78,000 in damages to illegal immigrants who were held at gunpoint by a rancher in the southern Arizona desert.

So the judge who was shot thought it’s okey-dokey to fine a rancher protecting his property a whopping $78,000. I’d guess it’s not this judge’s best decision and it’s unfortunate that he can’t try to rectify his stupidity. Death does that.


18 posted on 02/04/2011 7:35:20 PM PST by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: SmithL

Backhoe, end of problem.


19 posted on 02/04/2011 8:06:43 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Paladin2

“the case “sends a very important message that people cannot take the law into their hands.””

That is not the way things used to work when the country was founded. Besides, doesn’t NO TRESPASSING mean something?

What about those folks in AZ who tackled and disarmed the leftist shooter?


Maybe we’re barking at the wrong tree. Should the Congress or Arizona maybe should change the law like it is in Texas?


20 posted on 02/04/2011 8:11:48 PM PST by mewykwistmas ("Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river. ")
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