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While beneath every scientist exhortation of doom and gloom portending the end of all life as we know it there's a left-wing, liberal agenda desperate to take hold, this report deserves consideration and analysis, one that does not augur well for the state of the nation's health.
1 posted on 01/25/2011 1:22:44 PM PST by lbryce
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A saving grace in disguise? /sarc
2 posted on 01/25/2011 1:24:51 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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This proves it! We need government to take over our healthcare so we can all live longer! /sarcasm


3 posted on 01/25/2011 1:26:01 PM PST by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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Americans have more cars per capita than other countries. We travel by car more, leading to more accident related deaths.

Also, certain communities have a higher rate of violent death - you know, like Amish communities. That also pushed the life expectancy rate down.

Finally, are infants counted in that life expectancy number? In European countries, premature births are not counted as viable lives, so they are not counted towards infant mortality. Not so in the U.S. How does this factor (if at all) into life expectancy?

Life expectancy is a bit of a bogus number when evaluating things like health care. Look more closely at things like cancer survival rates.


4 posted on 01/25/2011 1:27:09 PM PST by bolobaby
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And for government, exactly how is this bad news? If a human kill switch could be installed to be remotely switched off the moment you draw down on the treasury instead of pay into it, we’d be wired up by month’s end.


5 posted on 01/25/2011 1:27:38 PM PST by blackdog
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GIGO... so many things can screw up the findings.

With politicized science..none of their results are reliable..You can massage data to make it say what you want it to say.

Just like the infant mortality rates...The US is always going to fare worse when we count every infant that draws a breath and other nations get to start counting after the first day of life. All you have to do to boost your infant mortality stats is let preemies die.

Are these adjusted for mva...how about gang related deaths.

Throwing a bunch of teen’s and 20’s into the data can really screw up the stats.


8 posted on 01/25/2011 1:36:48 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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“this report deserves consideration and analysis, one that does not augur well for the state of the nation’s health.”

You do not provide any evidence to support your assertion. I just read the summary with the graphs. The summary reads like a political diatribe. The health care system probably has little to do with the trend. The health care system scores well on the measures of cancer screening and survivability. The health care system cannot compensate for poor diets, lack of exercise, risky sexual practices, excessive alcohol consumption, smoking, and other individual behaviors.

The usage or non usage of government health care will not change individual behaviors except through heavy handed coercion. We could adopt laws for the same heavy handed coercion without government controlled health care. The left wants control and health care is a major target. This study is no justification of government controlled health care. Rationing and price controls will decrease the supply and quality of health care.


10 posted on 01/25/2011 1:46:37 PM PST by businessprofessor
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Life expectancy is not solely a function of health care. Not even remotely so. You would think a guy writing in a science magazine would know that and perhaps he does.


14 posted on 01/25/2011 1:56:02 PM PST by jwalsh07
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One word.... STRESS


15 posted on 01/25/2011 1:57:54 PM PST by hope_dies_last
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Gee! There's a shock!.....What with fat asses everywhere and all....
16 posted on 01/25/2011 1:59:21 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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This report does not deserve the consideration it is obviously demanding. To compare the American population to developed nations dismisses the immigration effects. The U.S. population is not homogeneous. The immigrants would have health characteristics more akin to the country of origin than to the U.S. The study of this health effect is perhaps one of the few times when separating the population by ethnic and cultural characteristics might be justified. More so if the immigrant arrived in the U.S. as an adult.


18 posted on 01/25/2011 2:00:25 PM PST by shagbark
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Is this like when Democrats call it a "spending cut" when Congress only increases spending by 5% when they planned on increasing it by 10%?
22 posted on 01/25/2011 2:10:36 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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One problem with comparing a nation like ours is that it is being compared to homogeneous nations that have one common ethnic group in the majority. such studies and statistics are bogus when comparing our population with it’s multi ethnic and varied genetic background.


27 posted on 01/25/2011 4:39:23 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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