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Wesley J. Smith: About Those Death Panels...The very real threat of government health care rationing
Weekly Standard ^ | 1/31/10 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 01/22/2011 12:52:50 PM PST by wagglebee



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; healthcare; moralabsolutes; obamacare; prolife; rationing
n its heyday, NICE followed a complicated quality-of-life/cost-benefit formula to ration care, using a unit of measurement called the “quality adjusted life year,” or QALY. Briefly, the process of determining whether a given treatment would be covered involved determining how much time a procedure might give a patient, then subtracting for low quality of life. The resulting QALY estimate was then analyzed to determine whether the predicted benefit was worth the projected cost. Some Obama-care supporters—including the New England Journal of Medicine—want the United States to adopt a QALY system, raising the prospect of bringing the worst aspects of single-payer rationing to federally controlled private health insurance markets.

This is EXACTLY what Zero and the left want to impose on us!

1 posted on 01/22/2011 12:52:52 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 01/22/2011 12:55:24 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 01/22/2011 12:55:55 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Interesting, or predictable, that wherever the left gains control of the state, mass murder follows. Just an observation.


4 posted on 01/22/2011 3:03:52 PM PST by redpoll
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To: redpoll

Death BY Government is a statistical compilation of how the more represive a goverment becomes, the more of its subjects are killed by the government.


5 posted on 01/22/2011 3:09:53 PM PST by Chickensoup (Protecting US interests ONLY if US interests move back into the States and give US citizens jobs.)
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There will be civil disobedience and a cry for retribution against the government,when Death Care starts happening.

People will be mad enough to shoot about it when they start losing loved ones prematurely. When people see it is a matter of life and death, things will be nasty.Think about it.

The husband of a wife who is declined to receive care to extend life, and she dies, hubby goes for his rifle? Can’t anyone see this?

NOT GOOD. REPEAL IT.


6 posted on 01/22/2011 4:29:41 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://wwvw.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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Yes, 300 million killed by governments to date according to the author of "Death by Government", RJ Rummel of the University of Hawaii. If you take as a base line that there have been, more or less, 10 billion humans ever to live since the beginning of whenever you believe humans started, that means that three percent (3%) of everybody who has ever lived has been killed by a government. That means that governments are one of the biggest single killers of humanity EVER.

Go ahead, liberals. Explain to me again about that silly Second Amendment being outdated.

7 posted on 01/22/2011 5:19:09 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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There will be civil disobedience and a cry for retribution against the government,when Death Care starts happening.

People will be mad enough to shoot about it when they start losing loved ones prematurely. When people see it is a matter of life and death, things will be nasty.Think about it.

The husband of a wife who is declined to receive care to extend life, and she dies, hubby goes for his rifle? Can’t anyone see this?

NOT GOOD. REPEAL IT.


I had the same thoughts myself. These people that would be denied do have spouses, children, siblings and in some cases, parents who would feel so wronged that they will exhibit the old "eye for an eye" idea in the Bible. This does not bode well. I know myself, I do fear for my parents who are in their 70's.
8 posted on 01/22/2011 9:01:58 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: wagglebee
This is EXACTLY what Zero and the left want to impose on us!

Think any prominent Democrat or liberal will ever have to bite that bullet and "die for the State"?

Fat chance.

Now Rush Limbaugh, on the other hand ......

9 posted on 01/23/2011 12:53:12 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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10 posted on 01/23/2011 11:04:42 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I thought that this from the article really spells it out:

“The Oregon Health Plan also rations covered procedures under certain circumstances. Chemotherapy, for instance, is not provided if it is deemed to have a 5 percent or less chance of extending the patient’s life for five years, meaning that a patient whose life might be extended a year or two with chemo may not receive it.

Worse, even though it is not a formally ranked procedure, assisted suicide is covered under state law. Thus, when two recurrent cancer patients were rationed out of receiving potentially life-extending chemotherapy in 2008, an administrator wrote a letter assuring them that the state would pay for the costs associated with their assisted suicides. Talk about a death panel!”


11 posted on 01/23/2011 4:49:00 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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Money for treatment - No!

Money for assisted suicide - Yes!

With Obamacare the entire country could be like this, and worse.


12 posted on 01/23/2011 6:06:01 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Yes, 300 million killed by governments to date according to the author of “Death by Government”,

Wasn’t that just 20th century deaths? I am trying to remember.


13 posted on 01/23/2011 7:45:37 PM PST by Chickensoup (Protecting US interests ONLY if US interests move back into the States and give US citizens jobs.)
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Was Dr Zeke Emanuel spit-shining his penny loafers when the subject of "O/Care death" panels surfaced?

When he got in as Ohaha's COS, Rahm Emanuel put his brother Dr Zeke in charge of Medicare/Aid and O/care. Meaning Wall Street Rahm has his sticky fingers in Medicare/Aid billions and O/care billions. Wall Street scuzzball Rahm is an expert at looting and pillaging govt money piles. Rahm Emanuel knows how to make money disappear faster than a cream puff at a Weight Watcher weigh-in.

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"Professor" Obama surrounded himself with Wall Street shrewdies---like Rahm. They are helping themselves to billions as we type.......Keeping a permanent Dem majority is at the top of the list. They will have billions at their disposal.

HOW GANGSTER GOVERNMENT SCAMS TRILLIONS----THE MADOFF MO Ponzi Madoff created a supersecret labyrinth of interrelated international funds, institutions and financial entities of almost unparalleled complexity and breadth......with assets and businesses in multiple places overseas that hid thievery, money launderering and tax evasion.

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Novelist Dean Koontz stated in a public forum that at least $70 BILLION has been stolen by the Obama administration.

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BUT HOW'D HE DO THAT? Emanuel was given the bum's rush out of Washington-----now he's running for Mayor. Rahm "says" he raised more than $10.5M in 3 months for his race..........

(This is so bogus. I feel like heaving.)

14 posted on 01/24/2011 1:33:33 AM PST by Liz (There's a new definition of bipartisanship in Washington -- it's called "former member.")
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To: Chickensoup

100 million killed by socialist governments in the Twentieth Century. The 300 million figure is for all governments in recorded history, that the author could find. Which is another good point. While governments have traditionally murdered their citizens throughout history, they stepped up the game in the Twentieth Century. They became bolder and more efficient (amazing to think of government getting more efficient at anything, eh?).


15 posted on 01/24/2011 5:10:15 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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When it comes to consolidating and grabbing power and loot, goverments are extremely efficient.

And lethal.


16 posted on 01/24/2011 6:50:06 AM PST by Chickensoup (Protecting US interests ONLY if US interests move back into the States and give US citizens jobs.)
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To: Hardastarboard

When it comes to consolidating and grabbing power and loot, goverments are extremely efficient.

And lethal.


17 posted on 01/24/2011 6:50:07 AM PST by Chickensoup (Protecting US interests ONLY if US interests move back into the States and give US citizens jobs.)
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