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Loughners Are Not Someone Else's Business
IBD Editorials ^ | January 12, 2011 | DAVID IGNATIUS

Posted on 01/12/2011 4:49:22 PM PST by Kaslin

Did our angry political culture help motivate Jared Lee Loughner on what authorities say was his mad shooting spree?

Maybe, but a more troubling question for me is why nobody stopped this often incoherent, irrational young man on his long path to the rampage in Tucson.

I don't just mean the people who sold Loughner his Glock 19 semiautomatic pistol last November, or the people at a Wal-Mart who allegedly sold him ammunition a few hours before the assault.

I mean the community in which he lived.

This was a young man who showed signs of mental illness, yet in our culture people couldn't or wouldn't stop him — even when they knew his behavior was bizarre.

We leave people alone in America, to a fault. We walk past rambling, dazed homeless people every day, if we live in big cities, avoiding their gaze rather than seeking to intervene.

And even when we try to stop people whose behavior seems to pose a danger to themselves or others, it's hard to do anything about it, as Loughner's professors at Pima Community College discovered.

Look at the moon-faced grin of the alleged shooter as he appeared in court for arraignment Monday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: giffords; loughner; mentalhealthsystem; schizophrenia

1 posted on 01/12/2011 4:49:23 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

no, it didn’t.


2 posted on 01/12/2011 4:50:58 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin
Look at the moon-faced grin of the alleged shooter as he appeared in court for arraignment Monday.

Booking grin, more likely (the one I saw), but at this point what's he got to lose? He's toast and he knows it; why not mock the public?

Better would be pictures from before.

3 posted on 01/12/2011 4:53:25 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: Kaslin

Hey David. “Maybe” my @$$. Stop being so lazy. Do your job and do a little research, moron. His few “friends” said he wasn’t interested in the news and politics. He didn’t watch TV or listen to the radio. Get a life pal!


4 posted on 01/12/2011 4:53:32 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: Kaslin
A couple years ago, we watched the mental break down of Brittany Spears. The media was eager to report on everything she did and showed us pictures of this young lady's break down. What did they do? Certainly not try to get her help. They simply made money selling the pictures.

Her parents had quite a time getting control of the situation and being able to help her.

I think that the media trying to insinuate that the mere acquaintance has any responsibility is just wrong in the Loughtner case is just strange.

5 posted on 01/12/2011 5:05:58 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: Kaslin

Without a doubt, this is one of the dumbest articles I’ve ever read.


6 posted on 01/12/2011 5:14:40 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
He's totally wrong about deinstitutionalization having been the right thing to do. It was not. While the institutions had problems, we threw the baby out with the bath water, and left the mentally ill without the care that they need.

Halfway houses and the like are now largely "voluntary." Getting an individual committed for even a short time is extremely difficult.

Add to that the privacy laws we have in place now, and one of the worst positions to be in is to be the family of a mentally ill individual.

I don't know anything about this young man's parents and what they did or did not try to do in regards to getting him help. I have known other parents with young adult offspring with serious mental problems, and their hands are largely tied by the system. Until there is a "threat" commitment usually does not happen. Health care providers are constrained from talking to the parents without the adult child's consent. The mentally ill individual can't be forced to take the medications which might keep him or her at least marginally functional.

The mental health system is a nightmare.

Just as some individuals are of such a criminal bent that they cannot be allowed to live as free individuals out in the world with the rest of us, some individuals are mentally ill to the extent that they need to be cared for in a protected environment where they can live in some peace and not be victimized.

7 posted on 01/12/2011 9:12:32 PM PST by susannah59
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