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"If FR dies, that’s that." - Jim Robinson [Jim's reply at post # 588]
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| paulycy
Posted on 01/11/2011 5:28:06 AM PST by paulycy
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To: Jim Robinson; paulycy; DJ MacWoW; FReepers
701
posted on
01/11/2011 10:35:04 AM PST
by
Lady Jag
(Double your income... Fire the government)
To: metmom; stuck_in_new_orleans; DJ MacWoW
I commented to.
Grow up or go away.
702
posted on
01/11/2011 10:35:33 AM PST
by
reaganaut
(Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
To: MinuteGal
This is not an indictment of all who post there, of course. So; you're going to let us GUESS who is doing this; eh?
703
posted on
01/11/2011 10:35:49 AM PST
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: DJ MacWoW
704
posted on
01/11/2011 10:35:52 AM PST
by
Tijeras_Slim
(Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
To: paulycy
I don't understand why there's no discussion of replacing the fried 8th server that's been down for months or longer. You're right. It's been almost a year.
705
posted on
01/11/2011 10:36:05 AM PST
by
DJ MacWoW
(America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
To: DJ MacWoW; All
With all the bitching some freepers have been mouthing, I don't blame Jim for being disgusted. Some freepers bragging about how much money they give, other complainers also...
When its slow, do something else for a while and shut up. I am just glad its not my computer that's the problem, cause then I am in real trouble....GG
To: metmom
I do donate, anonymously. Black Helos withstanding, do you know the FCC is trying to prohibit anonymous posting?
707
posted on
01/11/2011 10:36:15 AM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
To: Mr. K
PRAISE GOD FOR FOLKS LIKE YOU willing to step up to the plate regardless.
708
posted on
01/11/2011 10:36:58 AM PST
by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: Little Bill
Just because or your tag line making me laugh, I’m going to up my monthly donation right now.
709
posted on
01/11/2011 10:37:30 AM PST
by
Poser
(Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
To: Lady Jag
710
posted on
01/11/2011 10:37:30 AM PST
by
DJ MacWoW
(America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
To: Windflier
If I may, an even better solution is for Jim Rob to allow banner advertising, which only unpaid members would see. Paid members would not see the ads. I do like that idea. It would keep it private, so that nobody else would see who is donating and who is not, and thus judge others by that.
One can donate anonymously in regard to actual real world identity, and yet designate their FReeper screen name on the donation.
Then if they didn't like to see the banners, they could donate.
711
posted on
01/11/2011 10:37:38 AM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Lazamataz; paulycy; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
John's system is, frankly, amazing for the price it's cost. it's obvious it's a labor of love. Plus, for him to have accomplished it in a bass-ackwards language like Perl, is truly mindboggling. (Poke poke, John.... lol.... told ya .NET was the way to go......lol.....) Agreed. I'm not a fan of Perl but this
is testament to what tenacity and a good mind can do with it.
A rewrite is probably a formidable task, since this is an enterprise-level web app. My offhand guestimate is that it would take 2 senior developers, 1 fulltime tester, and one SOLID architect to pull off a full Free Republic implementation in 9 months to a year. Let us say, it is a year. Senior developers go about 100k, testers 60k, and an architect of the caliber you'd want is about 200k. That's 450k, and we haven't even talked about licensing development software and the equipment for them to develop on, much less the server farm itself. Figure 600k-750k to do a redevelopment.
This is true; but while Jim's stance seems somewhat anti-opensource of FR's internals I'm not sure if he is also unwilling to accept the 'donation' of developers re-implementing FR for him. I bet there's at least several capable programmer-types in the membership.
As I am currently unemployed [just graduated] I could probably donate some time to just such an effort. Even without pay, there is the possibility that I could put it on my resume as an experience point.
There may come a time when the Perl system you have simply won't cut it any more. When that happens, I suggest a conversion to a robust enterprise solution. I favor C#.NET with SQL back end. It's battle-tested and well-regarded for enterprise apps. John would be a pro in it in about a month.
As long as the system is being rewritten in another language, and the .NET paradigm of "language-independence" [CLR] is somewhat valid, then the choice of language should be given careful consideration. I would suggest that in this situation (where the common runtime makes data-types usable from anywhere) the best language would be one which facilitates:
- Compile-time error-checking
- Verbosity
- Modularity and perhaps
- language-level concurrency
(Items #2 and #3 together should greatly help maintainability, while #1 should prevent at least some troubleshooting.)
I would suggest Ada as it offers all of these features; and from my understanding the .NET-targeting Ada compiler from AdaCore can be used freely in non-commercial projects.
712
posted on
01/11/2011 10:37:46 AM PST
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: metmom
It’s a two way street. They can dish it out with the best of them.
Same with any other group that whines about *haters*, *antis*, and persecution.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
713
posted on
01/11/2011 10:38:02 AM PST
by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: listenhillary
$.25 per post might make some think if what they are about to say is worth saying. If Jim implemented that policy, this site would shrivel and die within the first day.
Much better to allow paid advertising, and set up the site so that donating members don't see the ads. Unpaid members would see the advertising, but still be allowed to post as usual.
714
posted on
01/11/2011 10:38:02 AM PST
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: HKMk23
715
posted on
01/11/2011 10:39:20 AM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: goat granny
I am just glad its not my computer that's the problem, Amen! I have a bad hard drive. I have a new one but haven't switched over yet. It will take awhile and I'm on FR everyday! lol TWO days without FR? Horrors!
716
posted on
01/11/2011 10:39:48 AM PST
by
DJ MacWoW
(America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
To: Elsie
717
posted on
01/11/2011 10:39:48 AM PST
by
reaganaut
(Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
To: Jim Robinson
It [FR] was a hobby that has grown terribly out of control"God bless you too Jim :-)
718
posted on
01/11/2011 10:39:53 AM PST
by
T Minus Four
("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
To: central_va; metmom
do you know the FCC is trying to prohibit anonymous posting? They want the lefties to know who we are. It makes it easier for them.
719
posted on
01/11/2011 10:40:53 AM PST
by
DJ MacWoW
(America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
To: paulycy
Subscription required to login. That might help
720
posted on
01/11/2011 10:41:19 AM PST
by
atc23
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