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Sheriff Dupnik Pre-Emptively Blaming Sarah Palin Because He Knows True Blame Lay In His Office?
Ace of Spades HQ ^ | 1/10/2011 | Ace

Posted on 01/10/2011 1:57:38 PM PST by Qbert

Hey, is this an unverified report, and am I slandering a man without waiting on evidence and confirmation?

I learned that from the media.

This is the claim. We'll see if it's true.

Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County... Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more..,,

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.

If the basic factual predicate there is true, the motivation and actions alleged make sense -- if you've dropped the ball, badly, and that's led to six murders and multiple grave injuries, damnit, you'd better start soliciting political allies and dreaming up faraway scapegoats.

Corrected: I got confused from the multiple retractions of how many had died and wrote "two." Six were killed, more gravely wounded, and more than that wounded.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; clarencedupnik; dupnik; freepressforpalin; gabriellegiffords; giffords; jaredloughner; loughner; obama; palin; reichstagfire
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To: Qbert

:) Your Welcome


21 posted on 01/10/2011 2:14:30 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: skeeter

That’s part of it. They also want to grab more control over people, as always.


22 posted on 01/10/2011 2:14:59 PM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert
There is a concept that circulates within the hard left (of which Sheriff Fat Mouth may well be an element) that holds that "society is at fault" for the madness of individuals such as Jared Loughner, and that the damage these people occasionally do to innocent members of that society is a form of collective punishment for middle-class society, justice for the collective crimes of a consumer-oriented, comfortable culture that is wealthy enough to live freely and independently.

By making us live with dangerous predators, these left-wing theorists believe we are made to experience the daily trevails of "people of color," citizens of other countries that are "exploited" by us, by multi-national corporations, etc.

23 posted on 01/10/2011 2:15:37 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Mr. Lucky
No, the true blame lies with the perp.

In the good old days, certifiable whack jobs who could harm innocent people were locked up before that could happen. The sherrif dropped the ball and ought to be made to splain hisself.

24 posted on 01/10/2011 2:15:43 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Qbert

I didn’t see the Fox interview, but apparently the Sheriff has already admitted there were previous death threats.
If they discouraged people from pressing charges, and preventing him from buying a gun, then a 9 year old girl is dead because of the Sheriff, not Palin:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2654389/posts

To: tirednvirginia
The sheriff confirmed the generalty of previous death threats by the punk to Megyn Kelly in her interview yesterday, saying a lawyer would advise he not discuss those recent threats. ..around the 10 min mark in the You-Tube video.

56 posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:04:39 PM by TexasCajun


25 posted on 01/10/2011 2:18:21 PM PST by Elendur
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Well done.

I also speculate the mom working for the county had something to do with it.


26 posted on 01/10/2011 2:18:41 PM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert
I blame the perp's choice to

smoke pot!

There somebody had to say it.

/Libertarian flame protection on full

After all, it seems not every pot smoker wants to sit on his back porch, worship his skull alter, and not bother nobody.

27 posted on 01/10/2011 2:21:44 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Mr. Lucky
No, the true blame lies with the perp.

Blame for the shooting, yes. However, there is also a matter of obstruction of justice, libel/slander and incompetence.

28 posted on 01/10/2011 2:26:11 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Mr. Lucky

shutup wuss. your pc crap is nauseating. If the punk should’ve been in jail or mental ward before the shootings, then there is plenty of blame for the jackass sheriff. Especially after all his slandering of the tea party and talk radio etc.


29 posted on 01/10/2011 2:26:41 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Elendur

The plot thickens.

Thought this was interesting on that thread (considering there were previous death threats to various officials):

He threatened on MySpace in December to kill police officers. Why wasn’t he taken into custody?

15 posted on January 10, 2011 11:42:12 AM CST by WilliamHouston


30 posted on 01/10/2011 2:27:56 PM PST by Qbert
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To: DannyTN

But consider...

http://www.livescience.com/health/marijuana-worsens-schizophrenia-100618.html


31 posted on 01/10/2011 2:31:40 PM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

hmmm, this makes so much sense ... it must be true .. we shall see


32 posted on 01/10/2011 2:33:58 PM PST by dila813
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To: mamelukesabre

Why, what a clever post.


33 posted on 01/10/2011 2:36:29 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

I’ll leave cleverness to a wuss like yourself. My comments don’t need to be clever.


34 posted on 01/10/2011 2:43:00 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre
My comments don't need to be clever.

At least you've set an achievable standard for yourself.

35 posted on 01/10/2011 2:45:05 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: onyx; kristinn; Dog; STARWISE; hennie pennie; maggief; holdonnow; Liz

This is pretty astonishing- and the blogger who wrote it has excellent credentials.

This needs follow-up.


36 posted on 01/10/2011 2:49:15 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Godwin1
“We will see if its true.” Not if we depend on the MSM. They like the sheriff and will not dig into this element of the story. And if they find out by accident, they will simply spike the facts. Alternate media is another story. But the audience is much smaller...”

You sound like you live in Tucson. Nobody will know a thing here that “Red Star” and the local commie media outlets don't tell them. They love that hack Dupnik and nobody ever bemoans the politicization of this.

Even Fox news has been more horrible than usual, giving Democrats a free run and only running defensive gibberish from Republicans.

37 posted on 01/10/2011 2:55:23 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Qbert

Dupnik should be impoverished and jailed for incompetence and neglect.


38 posted on 01/10/2011 3:02:39 PM PST by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will continue to have more relevant quality executive experience than B. Obama.)
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To: muawiyah; SE Mom; fight_truth_decay; Nachum; LucyT; STARWISE; SunkenCiv; FromLori; blam
M U A W I Y A H

Muawiyah, YOU called this one, over the weekend, OMG, this is what YOU predicted!!!!!! How did you know????

Kreskin extraordinaire!

39 posted on 01/10/2011 3:03:44 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: DannyTN

DannyTN, I’ve read on here at FR that Jerry Loughner’s friends claims that he deteriorated BIG TIME when he quit smoking pot & drinking alcohol -— and posters have claimed that many schizophrenics will self-medicate with such substances, and often become VERY mentally ill when they are withdrawn.


40 posted on 01/10/2011 3:07:56 PM PST by hennie pennie
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