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1 posted on 12/28/2010 5:56:09 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
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So they’ve finally been able to create a fake which they believe is ironclad.


2 posted on 12/28/2010 5:58:22 AM PST by Portcall24
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All the evidence we have overwhelmingly indicates that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii and is constitutionally eligible for the presidency.

Well that's just plain willful ignorance. There's a paucity of evidence all of the poor quality for either side of his claim of birth in Hawaii.

However in re Obama's status as a "natural born citizen" the evidence is indeed overwhelming. Overwhelmingly that he is NOT a natural born citizen.

3 posted on 12/28/2010 6:00:31 AM PST by bvw
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I suppose they’ve had time to gin up a decent forgery by now.


4 posted on 12/28/2010 6:01:15 AM PST by mapmaker77
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"people who love his mom and dad"

Fellow Travelers?

5 posted on 12/28/2010 6:01:32 AM PST by Paladin2
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/14/politics/washingtonpost/main3621961_page2.shtml

Abercrombie witnessed the crumbling of Barack Obama Sr. during a trip to Africa in 1968. He and a mutual friend from Hawaii stayed with their old pal in Nairobi. “It was clear to us how disappointed he was,” Abercrombie recalls. “He was drinking. There was a bitterness in him, an edge.”

Years later, after “Little Barry” had become an Illinois state senator and had unsuccessfully challenged Rep. Bobby L. Rush (D-Ill.) for a congressional seat, Abercrombie telephoned Obama to let him know that he had been a friend of his father’s. Obama was grateful for the call, Abercrombie says, but left the impression that “he didn’t want to pursue it.”

Though both now serve in Congress and Abercrombie is an ardent supporter of Obama’s presidential campaign, they have never discussed his dad. “We’ve never explored it, not even a little bit,” Abercrombie says. “And that might have something to do with him.”

Obama says he normally sees Abercrombie on Capitol Hill and the conversation is typically about politics and legislation. “It’s certainly not out of a sense of avoidance.”


6 posted on 12/28/2010 6:03:23 AM PST by maggief
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Too late, too many people have become believers.

obama would have better luck openly bribing every person in America with a $10,000 check if they sign a piece of paper under a blood contract to side with his sham wow show.


7 posted on 12/28/2010 6:04:22 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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It doesn't matter one iota where the 0bama-dummy was born...his father was not a US citizen.

So he takes the nationality of his father.

9 posted on 12/28/2010 6:05:03 AM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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What’s so “dumb” about it, David?

The “evidence” you cite is as weak as water. If my life depended on crap evidence like that, I’d just plead guilty and get it over with.

0 may well have a Hawaiian birth certificate, such as they were in those days. But anyone who takes the time to study birth registration laws c.1961 in Hawaii knows that anybody, ANYBODY could have gotten a birth certificate simply on a relative’s say-so that the child was born in HI via home birth or whatever. That was a carry-over from pre-statehood days when the object was to pump up the Hawaiian population figures in order to get into the union as a state, which took place in 1959. Lots of Asian agricultural workers claim Hawaiian birth as a result. 0 may have such a funky BC, which is why he keeps it hidden.


10 posted on 12/28/2010 6:05:03 AM PST by Scanian
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““It’s a matter of principle with me. I knew his mom and dad. I was here when he was born. Anybody who wants to ask a question honestly could have had their answer already.”
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Oh really? Please elaborate.
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All the evidence we have overwhelmingly indicates that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

“Indicates”?
And what evidence is that?
The same pap that has been fed to everyone?
Just show us a damn birth certificate.

I seriously doubt if he has any clue about Obambie’s past, or that he had any contact with the parents.


12 posted on 12/28/2010 6:08:45 AM PST by AlexW
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Written by a college kid in desperate search for a sinecure at some think tank in an attempt to prove his bonafides?

In any case the newspaper announcements are weak evidence for a number of reasons. The Department of Health issued such releases for any birth reported, including birth reports personally attested by one individual. Thus some party may have reported a false place of birth at the time. Why? To be sure of to gain the manifold benefits of US citizenship, and also to gain the many benefits of native Hawaiian birth, which accorded of itself a number of preferential treatments. For example, admission to the elite Punahou Preparatory school.


16 posted on 12/28/2010 6:11:04 AM PST by bvw
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It’s a matter of principle with me. I knew his mom and dad. I was here when he was born.

Yeah, but the question still remains, where was he ?

17 posted on 12/28/2010 6:13:12 AM PST by TheCipher
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Zer0 goes to HI and suddenly, “proof”(?) of his Sel. Svc. registration comes to light.
Zer0 goes to HI again and now “proof”(?) of his citizenship seems ready to appear.
When will he visit Harvard?


18 posted on 12/28/2010 6:14:30 AM PST by Roccus
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Why is he saying he’s going to do it (release proof of Obama’s American birth) instead of just doing it?


19 posted on 12/28/2010 6:16:47 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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Abercrombie intends to settle the question of Obama’s citizenship status once and for all by releasing more previously-undisclosed birth records:

Will it tell us who his daddy is?

Malcolm X

21 posted on 12/28/2010 6:19:28 AM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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Aloha Ahkbar


22 posted on 12/28/2010 6:19:57 AM PST by PGalt (life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians)
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The media is trying to say that we're all pretty much convinced that obama is a NBC, because the fervor about it has died down some.

But it probably has some to do with lawyers getting fined $20,000 for bringing it to court or Army Colonels getting jailed for questioning it.

We are under seige by this marxist administration, the economy is in ruins and he is on the verge of silencing all critics by controlling the net and the media.

The timing and contrivance of this obama visit to alohaland is way too convenient to be happenstance. I'd like to know who contributed to Abercrombies campaign and if a promise to quell the NBC controversy was the payoff.

For two years this president has played skin the rabbit with his background documentation and now all of a sudden that captain disclosure is elected governor, it starts to unfold?

I'm sure his media transcribers and his chia pets will buy into it, but it reads like a dime novel.
26 posted on 12/28/2010 6:37:00 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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Then why did Pelosi submit a different campaign eligibility document for Hawaii to sign? The other 49 states were given a document that was completely different. Or maybe it was 56 if you took Barry’s geography class.


37 posted on 12/28/2010 6:52:42 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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I believe he was probably born in Hawaii, but was never issued a SSN and gave up his American citizenship to become a citizen of Indonesia.


38 posted on 12/28/2010 7:03:14 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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I don’t believe his parents were ever married, either. The facts will conflict with what was published in his biography.


39 posted on 12/28/2010 7:04:12 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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I’m not too impressed with Calvin Cheeseburger’s ability to analyze this situation. If this is what passes for a Hillsdale College intellect I am doubly disappointed. Please Horowitz, I know you are trying to help reform our crappy universities but why do you have a lot of these Jr. Jim Bobs writing this juvenile crap on your website?


42 posted on 12/28/2010 7:34:20 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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