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Hawaii Governor Revives Birth Certificate Wars Because He Wants to End the Controversy. Uhu
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Posted on 12/28/2010 5:56:06 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

Thankfully, TV and the blogosphere haven’t suffered any major Birther eruptions in a while, but Hawaii’s new Democratic governor, Neil Abercrombie, is poised to reignite the dumbest of Barack Obama’s scandals…in the name of putting a long-overdue stop to it. Abercrombie intends to settle the question of Obama’s citizenship status once and for all by releasing more previously-undisclosed birth records:

[T]he governor made clear in the CNN interview that he will push forward on this matter regardless of whether the White House is privately worried that it may bring more attention to the so-called “birthers” who continue to deny that Obama was born in America – despite evidence showing that he was.

“We haven’t had any of those discussions,” Abercrombie said of the White House. “It’s a matter of principle with me. I knew his mom and dad. I was here when he was born. Anybody who wants to ask a question honestly could have had their answer already.”

Asked if one option is to ask Obama to waive his privacy rights so that a copy of his actual birth certificate can be released publicly, Abercrombie cut off a reporter’s question.

“No, no, no – it’s not up to the president,” he said. “It has nothing to do with the president. It has to do with the people of Hawaii who love him, people who love his mom and dad. It has to do with respect the office of the president is entitled to. And it has to do with respect that every single person’s mother and father are entitled to.”

All the evidence we have overwhelmingly indicates that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii and is constitutionally eligible for the presidency.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; birthcertificate; certifigate; hi; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 12/28/2010 5:56:09 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
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To: Michael van der Galien

So they’ve finally been able to create a fake which they believe is ironclad.


2 posted on 12/28/2010 5:58:22 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Michael van der Galien
All the evidence we have overwhelmingly indicates that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii and is constitutionally eligible for the presidency.

Well that's just plain willful ignorance. There's a paucity of evidence all of the poor quality for either side of his claim of birth in Hawaii.

However in re Obama's status as a "natural born citizen" the evidence is indeed overwhelming. Overwhelmingly that he is NOT a natural born citizen.

3 posted on 12/28/2010 6:00:31 AM PST by bvw
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To: Michael van der Galien

I suppose they’ve had time to gin up a decent forgery by now.


4 posted on 12/28/2010 6:01:15 AM PST by mapmaker77
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To: Michael van der Galien
"people who love his mom and dad"

Fellow Travelers?

5 posted on 12/28/2010 6:01:32 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Michael van der Galien

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/14/politics/washingtonpost/main3621961_page2.shtml

Abercrombie witnessed the crumbling of Barack Obama Sr. during a trip to Africa in 1968. He and a mutual friend from Hawaii stayed with their old pal in Nairobi. “It was clear to us how disappointed he was,” Abercrombie recalls. “He was drinking. There was a bitterness in him, an edge.”

Years later, after “Little Barry” had become an Illinois state senator and had unsuccessfully challenged Rep. Bobby L. Rush (D-Ill.) for a congressional seat, Abercrombie telephoned Obama to let him know that he had been a friend of his father’s. Obama was grateful for the call, Abercrombie says, but left the impression that “he didn’t want to pursue it.”

Though both now serve in Congress and Abercrombie is an ardent supporter of Obama’s presidential campaign, they have never discussed his dad. “We’ve never explored it, not even a little bit,” Abercrombie says. “And that might have something to do with him.”

Obama says he normally sees Abercrombie on Capitol Hill and the conversation is typically about politics and legislation. “It’s certainly not out of a sense of avoidance.”


6 posted on 12/28/2010 6:03:23 AM PST by maggief
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To: Michael van der Galien

Too late, too many people have become believers.

obama would have better luck openly bribing every person in America with a $10,000 check if they sign a piece of paper under a blood contract to side with his sham wow show.


7 posted on 12/28/2010 6:04:22 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: maggief

Whenever I want political clarity, I turn to the governor of Hawaii.


8 posted on 12/28/2010 6:05:03 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Michael van der Galien
It doesn't matter one iota where the 0bama-dummy was born...his father was not a US citizen.

So he takes the nationality of his father.

9 posted on 12/28/2010 6:05:03 AM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: Michael van der Galien

What’s so “dumb” about it, David?

The “evidence” you cite is as weak as water. If my life depended on crap evidence like that, I’d just plead guilty and get it over with.

0 may well have a Hawaiian birth certificate, such as they were in those days. But anyone who takes the time to study birth registration laws c.1961 in Hawaii knows that anybody, ANYBODY could have gotten a birth certificate simply on a relative’s say-so that the child was born in HI via home birth or whatever. That was a carry-over from pre-statehood days when the object was to pump up the Hawaiian population figures in order to get into the union as a state, which took place in 1959. Lots of Asian agricultural workers claim Hawaiian birth as a result. 0 may have such a funky BC, which is why he keeps it hidden.


10 posted on 12/28/2010 6:05:03 AM PST by Scanian
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To: spokeshave

Why is THIS not the arguement as opposed to where he was born????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


11 posted on 12/28/2010 6:08:13 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Michael van der Galien

““It’s a matter of principle with me. I knew his mom and dad. I was here when he was born. Anybody who wants to ask a question honestly could have had their answer already.”
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Oh really? Please elaborate.
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All the evidence we have overwhelmingly indicates that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

“Indicates”?
And what evidence is that?
The same pap that has been fed to everyone?
Just show us a damn birth certificate.

I seriously doubt if he has any clue about Obambie’s past, or that he had any contact with the parents.


12 posted on 12/28/2010 6:08:45 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Portcall24
That is exactly what I was thinking! What ever is shown to us will have been contrived. It will have been cleansed of anything that could be detrimental to the WON. And we will all be asking the question, Why did the WON not want this BC shown, it has nothing to be ashamed of or that is controversial in it?
13 posted on 12/28/2010 6:09:13 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: maggief

“All the evidence we have overwhelmingly indicates that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii and is constitutionally eligible for the presidency.”

Seems to me that statement is not as forceful as one could make i.e. all the evidence we have, what evidence would be my question. Second, using the term “indicates”, how about corroborates. No, this is a ruse, just like everything else about this phoney president we have.


14 posted on 12/28/2010 6:09:22 AM PST by Mouton
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To: spokeshave
It doesn't matter one iota where the 0bama-dummy was born...his father was not a US citizen.

So simple even a cave man could figure it out.

BTW, I'm not calling you a cave man. ;*)

15 posted on 12/28/2010 6:11:02 AM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Michael van der Galien

Written by a college kid in desperate search for a sinecure at some think tank in an attempt to prove his bonafides?

In any case the newspaper announcements are weak evidence for a number of reasons. The Department of Health issued such releases for any birth reported, including birth reports personally attested by one individual. Thus some party may have reported a false place of birth at the time. Why? To be sure of to gain the manifold benefits of US citizenship, and also to gain the many benefits of native Hawaiian birth, which accorded of itself a number of preferential treatments. For example, admission to the elite Punahou Preparatory school.


16 posted on 12/28/2010 6:11:04 AM PST by bvw
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To: Michael van der Galien
It’s a matter of principle with me. I knew his mom and dad. I was here when he was born.

Yeah, but the question still remains, where was he ?

17 posted on 12/28/2010 6:13:12 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: Michael van der Galien

Zer0 goes to HI and suddenly, “proof”(?) of his Sel. Svc. registration comes to light.
Zer0 goes to HI again and now “proof”(?) of his citizenship seems ready to appear.
When will he visit Harvard?


18 posted on 12/28/2010 6:14:30 AM PST by Roccus
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To: Michael van der Galien

Why is he saying he’s going to do it (release proof of Obama’s American birth) instead of just doing it?


19 posted on 12/28/2010 6:16:47 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Gadsden1st

Because the Brown Shirt Media thinks they control the debate. As long as they can keep it questionable, which is what a “shady b.c.” does they can continue the “debate”. Once it is accepted that the immigration laws in effect at his birth prevent him from being “natural born” there IS NO debate and they won’t stand for it.


20 posted on 12/28/2010 6:18:28 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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