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Pilots' unions oppose full-body scans, searches
WLS ^ | November 09, 2010 | Chuck Goudie

Posted on 11/10/2010 7:58:19 AM PST by george76

If you have gone through airport security at O'Hare, Midway or any other major airport recently, then you know that there is new screening equipment in place and procedures to search travelers.

Thousands of pilots who fly jetliners are angry about those changes.

There are two issues; two major pilots' unions say the full-body scanners are untested and potentially unsafe because of the radiation they expose travelers to. And the second issue is the new procedure for hand searches by Transportation Security Administration officers at airport checkpoints. Both have produced scathing memos about the TSA from the pilots' unions.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: airlines; avaition; aviation; fullbodyscanners; fullbodyscans; janetnapolitano; napolitano; scanners; scans; tsa; tsapervs
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1 posted on 11/10/2010 7:58:22 AM PST by george76
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Title should say:

“Unions oppose secure airports,

women and children hit hardest...”


2 posted on 11/10/2010 8:00:24 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: george76

First question... what are THEY smuggling?


3 posted on 11/10/2010 8:02:23 AM PST by himno hero
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To: fishtank
Whatever--I'm just happy that I will never have to board a plane again. If I can't drive there, I won't go there.

Fortunately, I've done a lot of foreign and domestic travel in the past, and saw everything I was interested in seeing.

This is a beautiful country from sea to shining sea. I hardily recommend road trips, getting off the interstates and taking the back roads.

4 posted on 11/10/2010 8:04:02 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: george76
BRAVO!

Repealing the Orwellian charade at the airports should be task #1 for the new Congress. That and the light bulb ban.

5 posted on 11/10/2010 8:04:47 AM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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If they wanted to, the pilot could fly the plane into a building.

Searching them is insane.

Authenticating them would be reasonable (fingerprint,etc.).


6 posted on 11/10/2010 8:06:15 AM PST by fruser1
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To: george76

Be French for 3 days.

Walk off the job and shut down the air traffic system.

Let Big Sis start ordering Maalox in the 55 gal. drum.


7 posted on 11/10/2010 8:07:41 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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I agree with the pilots on this one. They know that most people that they do this to are not terrorists, they just do it out of ‘fairness’. Save this Nazi type treatment for actual suspects.


8 posted on 11/10/2010 8:09:03 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: george76
STRIKE!!!

STRIKE!!

STRIKE!!

9 posted on 11/10/2010 8:11:32 AM PST by BossLady (TSA Motto - Go on Vacation....Come back with Radiation!)
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To: fishtank

What do soft porn imaging and gestapo-like molestation of women and children have to do with security?


10 posted on 11/10/2010 8:12:33 AM PST by giotto
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To: himno hero

They are against the scans because of Ionizig radiation. Is proven cause chromosome damage which can lead to skin cancrs. They are exposed to a lot of radiation because of the altitudes they cruise at .
My wife and I are willing to be “felt” up instad of being exposed to the radiation and we have NOTHING to hide.


11 posted on 11/10/2010 8:15:48 AM PST by Renegade
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You brought up a key issue right there, namely, saving the treatment for actual suspects.

Due to political correctness, there are no actual suspects as such. Instead, we’re all considered an equal threat to blow up or hijack a plane.

As much as I appreciate many achievements of the Bush administration, his Transportation Secretary, Norman Mineta, mandated that political correctness be used in airport screenings. He had personal family memories of the Japanese internment during World War II, and was determined that any sort of “Profiling” not be used.

So instead, we have to bend over backward to prove to people like Bin Laden and C.A.I.R. that we are not singling out Muslims/Arabs/young men from suspicious countries, etc.

Do Bin Laden and C.A.I.R. types of people suddenly love us because we are proving that we won’t use more common sense security measures???? Instead we make this big show of tight security and searches of everybody, just so certain people can’t say anything about discrimination.

An irony is that in the Arab/Muslim world, discrimination and profiling are used all the time. Political correctness is a western value, not a Muslim value. It’s hard to believe they respect us more for, as Obama puts it, “living up to our highest ideas”, when these people don’t share those ideals in the first place.


12 posted on 11/10/2010 8:18:28 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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I have nothing to hide either, but I don't want to be felt up either.

I say profile the Arabs and be done with this nonsense.

13 posted on 11/10/2010 8:19:03 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: george76

TSA should intern with El Al and then implement their no-nonsense, common sense approach.

I vote NO to radiation and if one of those creepy, low-life TSA union thugs grabs me, he’s going to have a black eye and a sore lower midsection.


14 posted on 11/10/2010 8:22:53 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: himno hero
they are not smuggling anything, it is offensive especially since prior to 9-11 pilots didn't even have to go through security.
15 posted on 11/10/2010 8:24:03 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

BUMP, I couldnt put it better.

Everytime we go to the Airport they find a new way to invade our privacy for no good reason. In that way the terrorists won. We cant intern real suspected terrorists so we all must be treated as terrorists. I call it Bush’s :”No Terrorist left behind” , as we keep all the children behind with NCLB.


16 posted on 11/10/2010 8:26:10 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: george76
If one is a Rush Limbaugh listener and has enjoyed the skit on employment as a screener, they may have had doubts. With various voices implying deviancy and perversion on their part and getting their jollies using authority, one could now say "how very, very, true".

It is the screeners who needed the screening. This to weed out the odd person who slips through the cracks and gives honest employees a bad name. Also messing up the system, which is what it has done.

17 posted on 11/10/2010 8:31:28 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: basil
Fortunately, I've done a lot of foreign and domestic travel in the past, and saw everything I was interested in seeing.

Same here. I've been everywhere. Don't need to go back anymore. Screw it.
18 posted on 11/10/2010 8:34:19 AM PST by crosshairs (Guns have two enemies: Rust and Politicians)
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To: george76

TYpical of pilots...afraid the world will find out how poorly they are really hung! :-)


19 posted on 11/10/2010 8:34:54 AM PST by Redleg Duke (We didn't limit out, but we nailed a bunch of RATS!)
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This was all set in motion when Bush made them Federal Employees. Screw up there.


20 posted on 11/10/2010 8:40:55 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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