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Liberalism on Campus
The Dartmouth ^ | November 10, 2010 | Roger Lott

Posted on 11/10/2010 7:44:58 AM PST by JohnRLott

An axe-wielding Christ-figure stands before a fallen cross and a junk heap of shattered cultural symbols. Small, ghostly children stand in the shadow of a zombie-like schoolteacher, their gray-and-black schoolhouse looming in the distance. A gray-skinned Hernan Cortez stands in front of his burning ships, standing over piles of naked Native bodies lying at his feet.

These are some of the scenes José Clemente Orozco paints in “The Epic of American Civilization,” which is housed in Baker Library’s Reserve Corridor. Although Orozco shied away from politics, it’s not hard to guess where his sympathies lay. His belief in the need for a seismic change in economic systems is evident in his depiction of a socialist utopia rising from the ruin of our tumultuous capitalistic world. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at thedartmouth.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: academia; democrats; education; fail; indoctrination; liberalfascism; liberalism; liberalprogressivism; moralabsolutes; progressives; universities
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1 posted on 11/10/2010 7:45:05 AM PST by JohnRLott
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To: JohnRLott

If I presented history in my classes with such bias (either way), I could kiss my tenure goodbye. Articles like this cherry pick extreme examples, and people who’ve never been to college howl about something that doesn’t exist.

College teachers at all levels reflect society: 25% are conservative, 25% are liberal, and the rest just do their jobs.

And, for the record, I’ve been teaching for ten years or so, and worked for Reagan in both campaigns. And I admit this in public.

For those who get emotional about articles like this without attending actual college history courses, look up “external validation.” You know you want to.


2 posted on 11/10/2010 7:58:25 AM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9

Excuse me where did you get that statistic,

“College teachers at all levels reflect society: 25% are conservative, 25% are liberal” ?

Can you site your source?

Furthermore, I don’t believe for ONE SECOND that stat. College staffs are notorious for being known as leftist.


3 posted on 11/10/2010 8:13:25 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: warchild9
College teachers, like reporters, editors, and other media types, at all levels reflect society: 25% are conservative, 25% are liberal, and the rest just do their jobs?

Teachers, at all levels, are very often immature and feministic, in my family's experience. And "immature and feministic" makes 'em bleeding, flaming liberals, by about the same 80/20 lib/conservative margin that reporters and other newsers fall into.
4 posted on 11/10/2010 8:14:09 AM PST by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: Sprite518

I tend to agree with you. I am sure there are some closet right wingers...but not many. True for pre college teachers also. Most of us left the teaching profession for other career choices


5 posted on 11/10/2010 8:21:25 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: JohnRLott
Orozco shied away from politics

Sure he did.

They dare not display classic religious art by The Masters at the library because it might be offensive. However, if some artist had a certain ethnic creed his material can be displayed "out front" if slams Western value. Apparently, some people should be offended..

6 posted on 11/10/2010 8:22:29 AM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: warchild9
College teachers at all levels reflect society: 25% are conservative, 25% are liberal, and the rest just do their jobs.

So where are all the campus Nativity scenes and quadrangle Christmas caroling? How about displays at Thanksgiving honoring the Pilgrims, or art shown at Easter exalting in the Risen Lord?

I suspect you would never even think of asking those questions.

And maybe 25 percent of college teachers are conservatives -- if you factor engineering and the hard sciences into mix which don't factor into the attempts to change society via indoctrination -- and 50 percent apolitical but they aren't the ones running things.

7 posted on 11/10/2010 8:22:36 AM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: JohnRLott

The comments are instructive, especially the one that implies that we should not celebrate technological progress because 1 billion people don’t have access to clean, potable water. I suppose that knucklehead would rather that all 6 billion people would not have access to clean water, or any of the other blessings of technology.


8 posted on 11/10/2010 8:43:05 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: JohnRLott

The comments on this site are priceless liberal drivel. For instance:

“Or how about the 1 billion people who don’t have access to clean, potable water?”

So you would think out of a billion people a few of them would have figured out how to provide themselves with potable water. Am I supposed to feel ashamed at the progress of American civilization because of the lack of civilization in large parts of the world? Is this what they call liberal guilt?


9 posted on 11/10/2010 8:45:26 AM PST by epithermal
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To: warchild9
Gee I have a Master's degree and studied history extensively in undergrad. Let me just say there was only one--one class in all off my years that a faculty did not either push their liberal, political agenda, teach history from the Howard Zinn POV, or just plain rant about Republicans and how bad they are. I am not going to even discuss the constant attacks I heard--vicious at times--on Christians or Christianity.

You're stat are way off too. Please site your source.

10 posted on 11/10/2010 8:48:57 AM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: warchild9
Gee I have a Master's degree and studied history extensively in undergrad. Let me just say there was only one--one!--class in all off my years that a faculty did not either push their liberal, political agenda, teach history from the Howard Zinn POV, or just plain rant about Republicans and how bad they are. I am not going to even discuss the constant attacks I heard--vicious at times--on Christians or Christianity.

Your stats are way off too. Please site your source.

11 posted on 11/10/2010 8:50:32 AM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: GOP Poet

My stats are experience, unlike yours. I’ve met hundreds of history faculty since I started teaching, and I know those numbers are pretty much correct. College teachers aren’t demons, though they’ve been demonized by emotional, unthinking people here on FR.

My anectodal evidence is more extensive than yours, and from the inside. I don’t depend on talk radio or Beck for my information. nah nah nah


12 posted on 11/10/2010 8:53:42 AM PST by warchild9
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To: Tribune7

My wife is Catholic and my father is a Southern Baptist, and neither of them put up holiday decorations. A lack of Nativity scenes is only important to people who need things like that to reinforce their religious insecurities.

A college campus is a business. That’s the first point that has to be made. Second, it’s a busy place, and most people save the holiday decorating for home. We don’t live here. Last, the term “Our Risen Lord” has no place in an institution filled with Catholics, Lutherans, Buddhists, and heaven knows what all like my school.

Oh, and the last part of your post is correct. The hard sciences balance out the artsy fartsy types in the humanities. History nerds, like myself, DO follow the proportions I mentioned.


13 posted on 11/10/2010 8:59:30 AM PST by warchild9
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To: flowerplough

You spend too much time listening to the radio. I work here twelve months a year, and interact with hundreds of teachers every week from all over the country. You live in a fantasy land where we’re all commies, instead of people doing their jobs.

Oh, since it’s the appropriate date, my father—a 35-year veteran in the Marine Corps (Force Recon, by the way)—tells all who’ll listen how HOMOS are accepted in the Corps, as long as they do their jobs. Does that mean Marines are queer? My daddy is extremely manly. Shriek away, flower.


14 posted on 11/10/2010 9:03:32 AM PST by warchild9
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To: Sprite518

College staffs are notorious for being liberals among those who know nothing about them.

My numbers are anecdotal, based on my familiarity with hundreds of college staff. How many do you know personally?


15 posted on 11/10/2010 9:05:05 AM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9
Anecdotal evidence (ie your experience) is not particularly useful (like the example of your father).

Polls and studies as well as contributions to political parties all shown overwhelming liberal faculties. This is particularly true of “elite” campuses.

While I am personally encouraged by your anecdotal evidence, I am largely unpersuaded.

16 posted on 11/10/2010 9:08:30 AM PST by NeilGus
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To: NeilGus; All

I’m not trying to pursuade anyone. Facts are facts.

And I’m sorry, but I’ve got to go pick up a bite to eat before teaching my 12:30 class.

It’s a survey Civil War class, by the way. Almost fifty students, and they better have their papers ready!


17 posted on 11/10/2010 9:12:11 AM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9
A lack of Nativity scenes is only important to people who need things like that to reinforce their religious insecurities . .

Last, the term “Our Risen Lord” has no place in an institution filled with Catholics, Lutherans, Buddhists, and heaven knows what all like my school.

As I figured, you miss the point.

Art, say in the library hall, at Easter-time calling Jesus "Our Risen Lord" would be something that would make you uncomfortable and that you would find controversial and would oppose.

OTOH, art showing an ax-wielding Jesus standing over the destruction of Native American civilization is something about which you say "feh, what's the fuss?"

And you really don't think universities have become places of indoctrination and that you really can't see that maybe you are a bit of a victim yourself?

18 posted on 11/10/2010 9:24:55 AM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: warchild9
I don’t depend on talk radio or Beck for my information. nah nah nah

That's how a conservative college professor responds to a challenge?

LOL! You're lying through you teeth about a lot of things, and most of us have seen right through you.

19 posted on 11/10/2010 9:28:32 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: warchild9

My stats (also based on experience) are in no way similar to yours. I doubt if 10% of the faculty I’ve worked with are conservative.


20 posted on 11/10/2010 9:29:18 AM PST by LanPB01
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