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Americans Elect Provides 1st Public Statement of its Presidential Goals, Raising Questions
Irregular Times ^ | July 31, 2010 | Jim Cook

Posted on 11/08/2010 11:03:05 AM PST by greyfoxx39

Americans Elect Provides 1st Public Statement of its Presidential Goals, Raising Questions
By Jim Cook

The group formerly known as Unity08 and briefly renamed the Unity12 Task Force has resurfaced as Americans Elect. Until this week, Americans Elect had remained a private Section 527 organization, registered with the IRS and issuing a variety of mission statements. Late this week, however, Americans Elect made its first public declaration of goals:

Americans Elect 2012

Our Mission

In order for Americans to enjoy the governance they deserve, Americans Elect will organize an Internet-based convention that nominates a presidential ticket for 2012. Every registered voter in America will be eligible to be a delegate. Americans Elect will collect and measure public and delegate views on core national issues and nominate a balanced presidential ticket that will bridge the vital center of American public opinion. The Americans Elect nominees will run on the ballot in all 50 states and will be a competitive alternative to candidates put forth by the Democratic and Republican parties.

This public declaration seems to implicitly confirm a shift away from the emphasis of Unity08 (and very recently Unity12) upon a cross-party ticket with a member of one major party to be President and a member of the other major party to be Vice President. Replacing the old idea is one process that Unity08 emphasized before (an internet-based convention), another process that Unity08 never discussed (the “collection” and “measurement” of public and delegate issue positions), and a new, more amorphous result: a “balanced presidential ticket that will bridge the vital center of American public opinion.”

Beyond technical questions about how a secure internet nomination process could be successfully engineered, this self-introduction by Americans Elect leads me to a number of definitional questions about the basic concept:

1. What is balance? What is meant by a “balanced presidential ticket”? What form of “balance” will Americans Elect offer in its identification of a presidential candidate and a vice presidential candidate?

2. What is the center? Which set of opinion surveys — public or delegate or both — will be used to measure the location of “the vital center,” and what measure (the most common view? an average of all views? the view with the least ideological between all views on a subject?) will be used to determine what a “center” is?

3. Who is “Americans Elect”? When Americans Elect writes that “Americans Elect will… nominate a balanced presidential ticket,” who is meant by “Americans Elect” — the leadership of the Americans Elect organization, or the delegates to the “Americans Elect” convention?

4. Who chooses? What is meant by “nominate”? Will delegates have the power to nominate various possible Americans Elect presidential tickets from which the final ticket will emerge? Will delegates have the power to choose between several alternatives presented to them by the Americans Elect organizational leadership? Or will delegates have the power to simply approve of an Americans Elect organization-selected ticket?

5. What if the processes conflict? What happens if and when delegates’ nominative choice (if any) conflicts with the public and delegate opinion polling to identify “the vital center”? Which determination takes supremacy?

Does Americans Elect’s own description of itself lead you to pose other questions about exactly what the basic concept is? What might they be?

This is not a rhetorical question. Please share any questions you may have about the concept of Americans Elect in the comments section here. If together we can come up with a good set in the near future, I intend to pose such questions directly to Americans Elect leadership. Together let’s take the first step: identifying what we all need to know in order to figure out just what Americans Elect means.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; independents; teaparty; thirdparty
I stopped by the local library today and found a couple of ladies who were being paid to collect signatures for a ballot initiative here in Arizona. They told me they were being paid by a corporation and that Arizona and Nevada were the first states to be targeted.

This sure appears to be an attempt by the democrats to lead the Independents who voted with Republicans into a "third party" so that democrats could counter the trend.

Has anyone seen this?

1 posted on 11/08/2010 11:03:11 AM PST by greyfoxx39
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2 posted on 11/08/2010 11:08:55 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: greyfoxx39

Last time I counted, there were at least 85 third parties—85! Anyone considering forming another 3rd party should take a long, hard look and that number and ask themselves why their party would be anymore effective than the other 85 third parties.

3rd party? No thank you.

I agree, this is more likely to be a Democratic dirty trick to bleed off conservative votes from the GOP.

We’re making good headway in taking back the GOP. Why form a 3rd party when we are winning the battle for control of the GOP?


3 posted on 11/08/2010 11:10:12 AM PST by Brookhaven (Voter Fraud is Treason)
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To: greyfoxx39

Does anyone in that organization have an identity?


4 posted on 11/08/2010 11:13:38 AM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Brookhaven

My thinking is that it is geared more to splitting and getting the independent vote back out of the hands of Republicans.


5 posted on 11/08/2010 11:13:50 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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From the article: "In order for Americans to enjoy the governance they deserve, Americans Elect will organize an Internet-based convention that nominates a presidential ticket for 2012. Every registered voter in America will be eligible to be a delegate. Americans Elect will collect and measure public and delegate views on core national issues and nominate a balanced presidential ticket that will bridge the vital center of American public opinion. The Americans Elect nominees will run on the ballot in all 50 states and will be a competitive alternative to candidates put forth by the Democratic and Republican parties.

Looks pretty scary to me if there's a chance in hell it could become viable.

6 posted on 11/08/2010 11:18:08 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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An Oldie Topic. Thanks greyfoxx39.
Americans Elect 2012 | The first direct presidential nomination

Americans Elect 2012 | The first direct presidential nomination

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