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The Biofuels Scam
The American Thinker ^ | November 07, 2010 | James M. Andrews

Posted on 11/07/2010 3:22:38 AM PST by Scanian

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To: Talf
people who against biofuels,
are either Arabs,
or shills for the oil companies

Whatever makes you think that oil companies are in favor bio-fuels?

Can you come up with one logical reason why oil compabies would favor bio-fuels?

Archer-Daniels-Midland, yes. Exxon, no.

41 posted on 11/07/2010 6:09:34 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Scanian

BTTT!


42 posted on 11/07/2010 8:12:38 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Lion Den Dan

>>as a hedge against soil depletion

Yes, I know that. Corn is one of the most soil depleting crops there is.

And the fact is that many farmers are now locked into soy/corn crop rotation because, in some cases, they’ve “bet the farm” on Biofuels thanks to parasites like Tom Daschle who, just coinkdidinkly...

http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/senator-daschle-may-have-an-alcohol/

That means that land once utilized for producing other food crops is no longer used for those food crops.

It’s simple supply and demand.

Regardless, Ethanol is a scam.


43 posted on 11/08/2010 7:19:04 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Lion Den Dan
[The production capacity of the United States alone for food stuffs has not even been scratched.]

Despite record yields, the gentlemen who are making the payments on this shed full of expensive machinery...



...think otherwise.

They know those production levels aren't sustainable. One major factor being WATER. One good drought (let alone one like that which created the Nebraska Sand Hills) - and the game will be over.

Despite high yields and record harvests - without Gooberment subsidization, they'd be losing money.

It's simple math - just like the fact that it takes more energy to produce ethanol than it creates.

So NO SALE.
44 posted on 11/08/2010 7:48:04 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Talf
people who against biofuels,

Hate big government and understand physics.

45 posted on 11/08/2010 11:31:32 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Scanian
Ethanol is crap, but bio-diesel is a good thing. When I retire in a few years I fully intend on buying a couple of diesel trucks (4x4 of course) and going into THIS business as a self interested hobby for a modicum of profit: BIODIESEL All that is required is a source of waste material like the neighborhood Burger King that will still need to dispose of it's oil waste products from the oinion rings or french fries and whatnot. The footprint for the machinery is very small, as are the initial investments. I mean, retirees need to keep busy, right?
46 posted on 11/08/2010 11:51:48 AM PST by ExSoldier (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.)
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To: Scanian; BOBTHENAILER; SierraWasp; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender

Decades ago, the enviro nazis got DDT banned. That results in about 1000 deaths each day in the third world from malaria.

Now, these Eco Nazis have made Mythanol an alternative green fuel and as a result: “The World Bank also says that rising food prices have pushed 100 million people worldwide below the poverty line. Riots have been sparked from Bangladesh to Egypt.”

The enviro Nazis are the real racists of the world and push abortion to go with their other mass extermination ideas like banning DDT and pushing Mythanol instead of oil.


47 posted on 11/08/2010 12:27:04 PM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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Thanks neverdem.
48 posted on 11/08/2010 4:12:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: LomanBill
You are wrong, but probably don't want to hear it.

Not all farmers are subsidized. But that is the theme on FR most days.

49 posted on 11/08/2010 6:52:14 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Scanian
Biofuels are good extenders. We are way over stocked on grain and fats, and ethanol and bio diesel help that.

i But the boom town attitude is nuts.

50 posted on 11/08/2010 6:54:05 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: PilotDave

don’t confuse energy, with liquid-fuel-energy

ethanol production, the gain of liquid energy is more the
ten to one,

the other energy inputs are coal and natural gas,
of which we got plenty


51 posted on 11/09/2010 1:44:56 AM PST by Talf
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To: redgolum

>>You are wrong

Numbers please?


52 posted on 11/09/2010 6:12:17 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: redgolum

>>Biofuels are good extenders.

Extenders of what, Tommy Daschle’s Bovine Excrement?


53 posted on 11/09/2010 6:15:08 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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