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F-35 expands envelope and marks 460 test flights
F-16.net ^ | 11/04/2010 | Bjornar Bolsoy

Posted on 11/04/2010 7:58:11 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Good progress is being made in flight testing by the CTOL and CV versions. F-35B STOVL mode flights have resumed, but the variant is still behind schedule. However, it is neither the CTOL nor the CV model that holds the current speed and g-load records for the F-35. That honor befalls the F-35B STOVL. Recently the jet accomplished Mach 1.32 and 7 g's, the maximum g's the STOVL is designed for.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospacae; ctol; f35; jsf; naspatuxentriver; stovl

1 posted on 11/04/2010 7:58:13 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
460 flights. Hmmm. Chuck Yeager took the Bell X-1 through Mach 1 after how many flights? With broken bones from a hard night out the previous night?

Perhaps we're getting scared or sissified.

Build, fly the edge, kill people, iterate.

This crap of over-engineering is counter-productive, and slows down progress.

/johnny

2 posted on 11/04/2010 8:04:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

“jet accomplished Mach 1.32”

Gosh! Thats even faster than an F-86 Sabre!!


3 posted on 11/04/2010 8:07:01 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino

Its a new plane so give it some slack.


4 posted on 11/04/2010 8:07:44 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

You BET! No slack needed for a sweet ride like THAT!! Sounds like a swell machine,, the Mig-15s are sure in for a nasty surprise!


5 posted on 11/04/2010 8:09:59 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino

Its going to be a very sucessful plane. The F-35 and F-15SE are my favorites


6 posted on 11/04/2010 8:11:59 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
No. I will not give it any slack. Or the organizations that developed it or fly it.

Man up, for God's sake. It works or it doesn't. Fly it like you mean it or cancel it.

Today's so-called development programs make me cringe. Our fathers are rolling in their graves over our timidity.

I'm sure there have been no Class A accidents on lots of programs, but that's just an indication that folks are being scared or lazy.

If you're going to do something great, expect explosions. People might die. Congress and the funders might need to get over it, learn something and move forward.

/johnny

7 posted on 11/04/2010 8:13:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You must remember there a lot of new technologies on that plane because its a fifth generation plane. You need to get the bugs out before manufacuting.When it enters in to service, it would be the most technologically advanced plane in the world.


8 posted on 11/04/2010 8:16:34 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: DesertRhino
the Mig-15s are sure in for a nasty surprise!

The new Sukhois may eat it for lunch, though. And we won't know until they crank on the hardware and make it groan.

BTW, I don't know, but I really do expect that somewhere, out there, some small country is still using the MIG-15 operationally. It's like the AK. It just keeps working.

/johnny

9 posted on 11/04/2010 8:17:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
ou need to get the bugs out before manufacuting.

HAR! Ever hear of a TCTO?

No plane that flies is right. Every one has a problem that needs fixed. They only ground them for red-X. Otherwise, they fly.

And since no-one has been killed in the testing, it's pretty clear they are being too conservative.

What happened to the guys that made things happen back in the '60s?

/johnny

10 posted on 11/04/2010 8:22:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

I’m sure all reports will say it is “superb”. (while Sukhois, MiGs, F-16s, etc all out-run it.) And when we get to the “D” model, we should put a bubble canopy on it too!

That really the best the USA can put out,, the F-35? Really??

I hate to rain on the parade, but electronics is it’s only strong suit. It seems nobody notices that that rest of the world BUILDS the best electronics. When someone hangs that electronics on a Machine that also goes Mach2+ with longer legs,,,the F-35 will be seen as a masterpiece of procurement officer career success, committees, and of international corporate tactics buying the right politics.


11 posted on 11/04/2010 8:22:59 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: JRandomFreeper
And since no-one has been killed in the testing, it's pretty clear they are being too conservative
There is a old saying: Better be safe than Sorry
12 posted on 11/04/2010 8:28:18 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: DesertRhino

You bring up very good points.


13 posted on 11/04/2010 8:29:13 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
There's another old saying.

This is a shit sandwitch, and I'm not taking a bite of it.

/johnny

14 posted on 11/04/2010 8:35:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

The F-35 program will be canceled within five years, partly for budgetary reasons, partly because of the bugs, and partly because “partner nations” are beginning to back out.


15 posted on 11/04/2010 8:36:13 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp

You do have a point


16 posted on 11/04/2010 8:37:53 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: JRandomFreeper

I thought that they contain a lot of fibre


17 posted on 11/04/2010 8:48:38 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: JRandomFreeper

I hate to say this, but these planes are really expensive (so are the pilots) so maybe that is why they are so risk-adverse these days. Also, there isn’t really any pressing adversarial development such as there was during the Cold War.

With no computers running simulations, they really didn’t know in the 40’s, 50’s, and maybe even to the early 60’s as to whether or not a plane would actually fly well at higher speeds (or, in some cases, at any speed :)). At least that aspect of development is a safer bet now.


18 posted on 11/04/2010 10:18:39 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie
No, they are risk averse because congress dribbles out the money, and if there is a crash, congress wimps out.

So, to keep the money rolling in, they slow things down to keep BAD THINGS FROM HAPPENING.

And that's what we get. A fighter jet that's slower than the B-58 bomber.

Are lives more valuable now than in the 60's?

And your allusion to computer sims... they don't actually work. All the computer sims HAD to be adjusted with real-world data.

And where does that come from? Crazy men in flight suits with brown stains in the back.

/johnny

19 posted on 11/04/2010 10:51:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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