Posted on 10/30/2010 2:12:14 PM PDT by pinochet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanization_%28of_Native_Americans%29
Americanization policies were based on the idea that when indigenous people learned United States (European-American) customs and values, they would be able to merge tribal traditions with European-American culture and peacefully join the majority society.
Assimilation makes a lot more sense than mutliculturalism and, to some degree, was a worthy goal.
Leftists today are doing what teacher is complaining about today -- suppressing religion in public schools and indoctrinating kids with secular and leftist ideology. Poorer parents have no more a choice but send their kids to the Marxist indoctrination centers.
He sarcastically added that, if the past treatment of Indians in America is an example of “Christian love”, it terrifies him to think of what white Christians would have done to the Indians, if they were motivated by “Christian hate”.
As far as I can tell, his example is not always true. Why then and now, was Christianity so prevalent amongst those of African Descent in the United States, even though it was supposedly Christianity which was the religion of most of their slave masters and owners in the states?
Additionally, people should also look up the Haitian Revolution, that revolt was heavily based on a secular oppression. The revolt was started by mulatto leaders on the basis that they requested the French let them go on the basis that they had supposedly “overcome” Christian rule. Well, for the Haitians, the more secular French Government did not care for letting them go, they simply wanted the money from the trade in the Caribbean.
All I have to say is that human nature has good and evil, religion only matters when one can appeal to some nature of the masses and dodge addressing their own case. And while their was some religious bias in the Founders to include mention of “Nature’s God” or “The Creator” or “Year of our Lord” in the founding documents, the important key here is that there needed to be an effective system of checks and balances going on, because just about anyone without checks, well... Let’s just say that I agree with the statement that “Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely”.
All I know, is that if an Irish immigrant from the 1800’s came ot America and was offered what all immigrants get today, the immigrant would likely fall to his knees and praise God (not that they didn’t already) for being in such a nation. As for their whining, I am beginning ot understand why my forefathers called them savages. Savage ingratitude.
***Of course not! I mean, scalping was a Eropean invention, as was war! Until then, Indians lived in perfect harmony with each other.***
I hope you meant that as a joke. Here is an interesting link on scalping and indian love of their fellow indian.
http://www.dickshovel.com/scalp.html
Yeah, I have the ability ot be grossly misinterpreted. Led to some incidents. But I was totally being sarcastic.
Don't forget cannibalism...
***He also noted that many Indians consider white Christians to be worse than Muslims. ****
I know some American Indian (Cherokee) Christian preachers who will disagree with you.
One woman who was admitted had a broken leg and a child.
She was a ‘Native’ from a nearby reservation.
Her husband beat her constantly and she walked to the Reservation Police Station to swear out a warrant against him.
While on the walkway from the sidewalk to the front doors of the Reservation Police Station her husband ran her over, (thus the broken leg.
She laid on the sidewalk for 45 minutes before anyone would come yo her aid.
Some of her ‘friends’ walked by and told her: “you deserve this, your husband would not beat you if you were a better wife.”
None of her ‘friends’ helped her at all.
As I mentioned, she was helped after 45 minutes and given the medical care she needed.
P.S. Her husband ran her over with his squad car as he was a policeman.
It's a whole different thing on some Reservations...
Judging from the boxes, he must have a server farm.
**Now here’s a guy who’s got brand new siding. Can you imagine who much THAT cost the taxpayers?**
That looks like what white people on the high plains lived in when I was a child! Only the cardboard was on the inside and the outside was feed sacks dipped in concrete and nailed on.
When my dad dragged us from the West to the Ozarks those houses pictured would have been inhabited by middle class Arkie hillbillies! Missouri hillbillies were worse off!
There is no such thing as "white Christians". Just Christians. Christians can just bring the Gospel, God's message and demonstration of HIS Love for all the world, and to love the lost as the Lord Jesus has loved us.
We can't twist people's arms to believe. Satan will use whatever obstacle he can to keep people in blindness, and to keep them in slavery to sin.
Having a pity party about the past is pointless. I'm sure terrible things were done by settlers from Europe. But heinous things were also done by the 'native' Americans. Brutality inflicted upon the settlers as well as brutality inflicted upon other 'native' Americans.
In short, the Americas were in Satan's dominion prior to the European migration. Cannibalism, human sacrifice, disregard for human life and dignity was the norm... Life was not a Disney version of Pocahontas.
But our wonderful education system being what it is - we are taught that all European settlers were evil - and the 'Native' Americans were good, peace loving, tree-huggers.
Be that as it may. Whatever was done in the past is irrelevant. What matters today is a person's soul.
[John 3:16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life....
There is no excuse for anyone, anywhere, to reject such an incredible gift. If some people who preached this message were sinners (i.e, 'men') - so what? This gift is from God, not from men.
They kept asking him why they should accept Christianity - a religion that white Europeans were themselves rejecting. Does Christianity have a future in Europe, and in the West?
God's message of Love and reconciliation is to the whole world - not just to Europe, or to the West. If white Europeans have rejected God's gift - man's only hope - for the idolatry of Gaia-worship, and man's government (basically walking in the footsteps of those old builders of Babel, saying, "...Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth...") - that is due to their blindness. Why should one man's foolishness and folly encourage another man to abandon his only hope for Salvation. Read the Bible - seek the LORD. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. And know that the LORD has said, If ye seek me ye shall find me.
One does not seek the LORD by esteeming the actions and words of men over The Word of God.
You need to ask the Hopi, the Zuni, the Pima, and other Pueblo people of their opinion of the Apache-Navajo invasions.
The Navajo began one of their invasions into historical Hopi lands in the 1820s, and land disputes between the two peoples still continue today.
The original homeland of the Apache and Navajo was Canada and Alaska. The discovery of this origin was through linguistics.
The Apache-Navajo languages are Athabascan languages.
You and Niuhuru must be dreaming up your own version of history. The tribes were neither peace loving or generally having good relations with other tribes as they were very territorial, nor were there many practicing cannibalism. Although one tribe in Galveston definately like the taste of Spaniards and probably Choctaw too.
Im in full agreement with you there...
btw I was a tribal cop/school resource officer hired after the Red Lake School shooting.
Christianity is growing in South Korea and many places in Africa. And Christianity is not dead in America, despite what liberals want you to believe.
Even the vaunted Iroquois, for all their supposed sophistication, supped on human cuisine more than once.
Of course, when an American Indian in the United States raises the justifiable complaint about the forced indoctrination of his tribe’s children in Christianity by the U.S. government, he means Protestantism.
In Alaska, Orthodox Christian Tlingits, Aleuts, Yupiks, and Athabascans had their children forcibly abducted and sent to Protestant boarding schools by the U.S. government, a practice that was only stopped by the Supreme Court ruling that outlawed state-sponsored prayer in public schools.
Orthodox missionaries in Indonesia are not having that problem you note—only the problem of persecution by Muslims.
Why do you think they need all that electricity uptown?
The important thing here is the MSM weasel word Some in the title. That can mean 'one or so'. If it instead said 'most' or even 'a plurality', then I'd double check. 'Some' can be used to validate or condemn anything and everything, with little or no evidence.
Begin telling the truth about Christianity once again. Western society is dominated by an elite that considers Christianity to be its nemesis. Most forms of media, entertainment, and education are utilized to subtly, an sometimes openly, indoctrinate against the faith. Those who resist are castigated as intolerant haters. Indians may be foolish for going along, but those who swallow such propaganda against their own kind are worse.
For instance many descendants of European Christians have come to sit in haughty judgment over the defenses necessary for preserving and handing down the civilization they received (and which is now being extinguished).
The Crusades, Inquisitions, and strict moral codes were once universally accepted as necessary to defend and expand Christian civilization. Now that we have abandoned our moral rights to self-defense, we step aside for those who will defend themselves.
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