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Pre-school girl can be sued, judge rules
UPI ^ | 10/29/2010

Posted on 10/29/2010 10:06:49 AM PDT by markomalley

NEW YORK, Oct. 29 (UPI) -- Cycling back to cases settled in 1928, a New York judge determined a 4-year-old girl accused of running down an older woman while racing a bike can be sued.

Justice Paul Wooten's ruling earlier this month did not find that the girl was liable in the incident; it only allowed a lawsuit brought against her, another boy and their parents to proceed, The New York Times reported Friday.

The suit claims that, in April 2009, Juliet Breitman and Jacob Kohn, both 4 at the time, were racing their training wheel-equipped bicycles along a sidewalk, while mothers Dana Breitman and Rachel Kohn supervised. During their race, the children hit Claire Menagh, 87, as she was walking, causing injuries that required surgery, the complaint said. Menagh died three weeks later.

The woman's estate sued the children and their mothers, claiming they acted negligently. The girl's lawyer argued his client was too young to be held liable for negligence, the Times said. The boy and his mother didn't contest the suit.

In his opinion issued Oct. 1, Wooten said the girl was old enough to be sued, among other things.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
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Judges gone wild
1 posted on 10/29/2010 10:06:50 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
So, in NY, the innocence of youth is truly lost.
Putting my kids in a bubble.
Don't want to get sued for my uncoordinated child's accidental actions.
2 posted on 10/29/2010 10:11:10 AM PDT by TexasPatriot1 ("Tyranny is defined as that which legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry" Jefferson)
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To: markomalley

A four year old child I understand has not reached the age of reason, but a fully grown judge? Just insane. Too damn many lawyers. Old Bill Shakespeare had it right about what to do with the lawyers. We need a 20 year moratorium on law schools. Enough already.


3 posted on 10/29/2010 10:16:43 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: markomalley
Her estate sued the children and their mothers, claiming they had acted negligently during the accident.

The woman died. The mothers were supposed to be supervising the kids. The judge could have ruled that parents have no responsibility for the actions of their children while under their direct supervision. I think that would have been much more disturbing.

4 posted on 10/29/2010 10:17:55 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: markomalley

so the estate gets the girl’s bike?

how lamebrain. I bet the estate’s lawyer is a democrat.


5 posted on 10/29/2010 10:19:33 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Sooth2222

Bump!


6 posted on 10/29/2010 10:19:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: markomalley

No. This is a tough one. If a child does something that injures or kills someone, then someone should be held responsible. Its not fair that associated cost falls on the victim’s family. Here we have an 87 year old so I can’t imagine there are too many consequential damages, like loss of income to a family. I can see good arguments on both sides:

On the one hand, the old woman’s family is putting the child and her family through a traumatic experience where there aren’t any tangible losses.

On the other hand, the child did something that resulted in a death and you can’t just tell the woman’s family to get over it.


7 posted on 10/29/2010 10:22:23 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: TexasPatriot1
Don't want to get sued for my uncoordinated child's accidental actions.

Then keep your four year old under proper supervision.

8 posted on 10/29/2010 10:23:19 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: Sooth2222

I agree with you. The parents should be teaching the children that they need to be careful of other people when on their bikes. I’m sure that 87 year old woman didn’t appear out of nowhere. The mothers should have anticipated and warned their children to be careful.

As an aside, cyclists in general tend to ignore the rules - and apparently it starts while they are still in “training wheels”.


9 posted on 10/29/2010 10:24:23 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: John O
so the estate gets the girl’s bike? how lamebrain. I bet the estate’s lawyer is a democrat.

Obviously you didn't read the article. The mother is also named in the suit.

10 posted on 10/29/2010 10:24:53 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: markomalley

The girl’s parents should refuse to get an attorney and have the little girl defend herself in order to mock the stupidity of the judge.


11 posted on 10/29/2010 10:25:17 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: John O
The judge cited cases going back as far as the 1920s.

BTW a search of the mother's name suggests the girl's mother is a lawyer.

And I would be amazed if she is not a Democrat.

12 posted on 10/29/2010 10:25:30 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: mc5cents

The line about killing lawyers was said by the villains as a necessary first step to stage a coup against the legitimate government. Food for thought.


13 posted on 10/29/2010 10:29:03 AM PDT by Jagermonster (They will not force us. They will stop degrading us. They will not control us. We will be victorious)
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To: markomalley

Not Judges gone wild.

Judge did the right thing. The Judge’s ruling is based on whether the girl(and by law those responsible for her), could be sued.

Where the LIABILITY will be assessed, is usually with the RESPONSIBLE PARTIES (i.e. the parents).

This was a DODGE by the lawyers for the girl’s family, trying to avoid the lawsuit. It didn’t work.


14 posted on 10/29/2010 10:29:40 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The girl’s parents should refuse to get an attorney and have the little girl defend herself in order to mock the stupidity of the judge.

Obviously you didn't read the article. The mothers are named in the suit also.

15 posted on 10/29/2010 10:32:26 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The girl’s parents should refuse to get an attorney and have the little girl defend herself in order to mock the stupidity of the judge.

Because mocking a judge always works out well. (/s)

The 4 year old is the BASIS of the suit, and not the eventual RESPONSIBLE PARTY. That will be the parents. If the judge didn't allow the SUIT to go against the girl, then the parents can't be held responsible.

See how that works?

16 posted on 10/29/2010 10:36:24 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: chickadee

“I’m sure that 87 year old woman didn’t appear out of nowhere. The mothers should have anticipated and warned their children to be careful.”

Are you a witness, because the article does not say if the elderly woman appeared out of nowhere or not. The point is that we live in a law-suit happy world. If these kids were racing their bikes down the sidewalk and the elderly woman stepped onto the sidewalk from a place were she could not be seen, then it might not be the kids’ faults.


17 posted on 10/29/2010 10:44:15 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: markomalley

This is insane.


18 posted on 10/29/2010 10:45:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TexasPatriot1

I don’t know how it works in NY but out here the sidewalks are for people walking. However, we have bikers who ride on the sidewalks and ride up behind walkers and expect us to simply get out of their way. I’m a little hard of hearing and don’t always hear them. I expect to get run down at some point.
I realize these were small children, however they should have been under the supervision of their parents. I feel bad for the kids but sheesh, the woman died.


19 posted on 10/29/2010 10:46:30 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Wht “should” some one be sued?


20 posted on 10/29/2010 10:47:28 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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