Posted on 10/28/2010 2:56:57 PM PDT by NYer
What kind of chavs name their kids “Jack”? It’s JOHN, goofs.
There were approximately 350,000 baby boys born in Britain last year. That means that boys named Mohammed (or variant thereof) accounted for a whopping 2%. Considering that more than half of all Islamic boys are named Mohammed, it’s not exactly earth-shattering.
I understand that Mohammed was the most popular name in Amsterdam back in 2007, already. Anyone heard of a Mohammed van Oranje yet?
They didn’t add the variant spellings of the other names together like they did with Mohemmad. I wonder if that would have made a difference.
Freegards, thanks for all the pings
OK, let’s look at what they did here.
To make their claim, they combined the numbers for every variant spelling of the name Mohammed they could find - and then compared it to single spellings of other names. They didn’t consider the possibility those other names might have variant spellings as well.
I have - I’ve got the data.
If you total together all the variant spelling of Mohammed (example: Mahamed), you get a total of 7552 baby boys named that in England and Wales. No individual variant has more than 3300.
Now, let’s look at what happens if we count all the variants for some common English names (I just selected a few I thought would be common) (and, yes, I know Ransomed has also pointed this out - he hadn’t posted when I started crunching the numbers).
John - when I count up all the variants of John I can find (examples, Jon), I get 11,598 baby boys with name in England and Wales.
Henry (example variant: Henri), total comes to 8,389.
James: 9689
William: 8589
I also did Charles - it comes in just behind Mohammed, at 7081.
I chose 5 common names and compared them properly with Mohammed - comparing like with like, counting variations - and 4 of them came out ahead of Mohammed.
I’m not going to spend any more time on it, but Edward, Thomas - there’s a few others as well that would probably come out with high numbers.
So what’s the real story here?
In my view, it’s yet another example of how the media can manipulate facts to generate a sensational and not particularly honest story, if it chooses to.
Something I think people here should be aware of.
Huh? My dad had 6 brothers, one of which was Jack, and another, John. (I say "had" because Jack died.)
Doing a search before posting is more than just a courtesy.
This is already posted at:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2615514/posts
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Mohammed is now the most popular name for baby boys ahead of Jack and Harry
10/27/2010 7:18:22 AM PDT · by bkopto · 48 replies
Daily Mail ^ | October 27, 2010 | Daily Mail Reporter
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.... it’s yet another example of how the media can manipulate facts to generate a sensational and not particularly honest story ....
Just as your pot-calls-kettle-black post — apparently intended to manipulate those facts and to promote a less than honest take on an important and deadly threatening demographic — projects your attempted obfuscation of the simple facts and, more seriously, of the underlying implication contained in the original, honest, story.
That (”EU”-mandated “politically correct”)underlying implication that alludes to the reality of Islam having effectively cemented into place its looming take-over of all of Old Europe - now incorporated in the Euro-peons’ doomed Neo-Soviet (AKA the “EU”) — and including those of the Neo Soviet’s squalidly fascissocialist offshore satellite states. Those states, that is, previously known of as once-great Britain.
Can you say, EUrabia?
That’s still an awful lot of Muslim babies.
Garbage. I'm sorry you prefer media propaganda to facts but apparently you do. The media chose to deliberately manipulate data to give a false impression - they lied. If you don't have a problem with that, then all power to you. Personally I'd rather have the facts than media misinformation. In this case, it's quite easy to find the facts as well.
Incidentally, the media was particularly sloppy in that their articles actually missed on of the alternative spellings of Mohammed - that's why my count is three higher than theirs. So they can't even dissemble competently.
That (”EU”-mandated “politically correct”)underlying implication that alludes to the reality of Islam having effectively cemented into place its looming take-over of all of Old Europe - now incorporated in the Euro-peons’ doomed Neo-Soviet (AKA the “EU”) — and including those of the Neo Soviet’s squalidly fascissocialist offshore satellite states. Those states, that is, previously known of as once-great Britain.
I'd have more respect for your opinions if you hadn't just demonstrated you are prepared to base them on media misrepresentations to the extent you get upset when somebody points out the facts.
Can you say, EUrabia?
Yes, I can - can you say, Media Spin?
I have massive problems with the idea of the EU in general - and I have since before it was called that, back in the 1960s and 1970s. I think it's a horrendous idea, and I find it quite horrifying that the British government chose to sign up to it. The growing influence of Islam within the EU is a newer part of the problem, and a particularly concerning one - but we don't have any hope of finding a solution to that if we base our position on media lies. It needs to be based on facts and the truth. Real numbers - not manipulated ones.
Every time somebody uses a manipulated figure, they weaken any case they make based on statistics. I think the facts are serious enough that I don't want them obscured by the acceptance of lies.
How often are you in Britain? I'm a British citizen (as well as an Australian one) and I'm over there at least twice a year, and have spent extensive periods of time there. When I am there, I do what I can to try and oppose the things that are anti-British and what I can to try and improve matters. I find we have most success when people can't just dismiss our arguments as misinformed, and that means not relying on inaccurate garbage media propaganda. But on hard facts and numbers.
We have Islamic terrorists blowing up trains and buses - we don't need misinformation about baby names to show people there's a problem.
Yes, it is. And that's why the media misrepresentation worries me - because it obscures that fact.
As I say, I've got the numbers. If I wanted to talk about the real problem - I'd talk about the fact that some people named their son 'Jehad' in England last year.
Or I wouldn't just focus on Mohammed - I'd also count up how many children have other Islamic names - there are, for example 742 children with variants of Abdul, or such variants coupled with other names.
The people who named their sons Osama would attract my attention. The 198 who named their sons Hussein, or some variant.
People want to use this data to look at the real problem - great. People want to manipulate it dishonestly for a quick headline - not great.
1—Isnt sex original sin?. So isnt procreation hedonism anyway?....lol
2—Most immigrants to Britain or any country are decent people. The unpleasant minority aside.
Sex, within the constraints of marriage, is not a sin. Hedonism is when you have sex outside of marriage, abort away your future, and commit demographic suicide. The decline and fall of a once-great, now decadent empire.
Taking advantage of the enfeebled English drunkards are radical Muslim immigrants causing untold social and cultural turmoil. Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany are finally recognizing the limits of multiculturalism. The besotted British will too.
great work!
Were your parents Chavs?
Jack, in English, is the diminutive of John.
I don’t know what a Chav is. My parents were from KY, and so were their parents. Beyond that, I don’t know. I do know that my Father’s side of the family came from England sometime in the 1700s. I also know that I didn’t have 2 paternal uncles named John. :)
Well, maybe they were the 18th C. version of chavs...they probably were if they ended up in the Colonies.
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