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(Falcon) Lake killing blamed on blunder (Mistaken Identity)
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 10/13/2010 | By Lynn Brezosky - Express-News

Posted on 10/14/2010 6:52:17 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: momtothree

Lets just stick to this Hartley issue. The Hartleys gambled with their lives and lost.


41 posted on 10/14/2010 7:53:47 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Mashood

Personally, I would never vacation in Mexico—but I don’t think we should write off our own citizens simply because they visit Mexico.


42 posted on 10/14/2010 7:57:08 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: MizSterious

“Oh, well then. I guess we shouldn’t be concerned.”

Correct.


43 posted on 10/14/2010 7:57:51 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Responsibility2nd; tuffydoodle; secondamendmentkid; re_nortex; Lorianne; Wage Slave; HushTX; ...

Ping

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


44 posted on 10/14/2010 7:59:24 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Mashood

I’m sure you’ll hold that view until it’s your own ox being gored.


45 posted on 10/14/2010 8:02:02 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: MizSterious

Stupid people do stupid things all the time. You can’t save stupid people from themselves.


46 posted on 10/14/2010 8:03:34 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: STYRO
Time to send a stern signal to the contrary.

I tend to prefer 155mm as a signaling device, but a B-52 raid would also do a nice job.

We don't need a fence along the border. We need a fortified zone a kilometer deep with barbed wire and mines covered by automatic fire. And listening posts to detect underground tunnels.

People always say that the Maginot Line failed. But the Germans never penetrated the line, they just went around it. So we need to build our line from the Gulf coast to the Pacific with no gaps. As to the cost of building such a line, simply compare it to the cost of imprisoning and providing schools and medical care for illegals. Concrete, mines and barbed wire are cheap. And building the line would be a shovel ready project.

If the Mexicans want to slaughter each other on their side of the line so be it. But they must not be allowed to continue bringing their carnage here.
47 posted on 10/14/2010 8:05:20 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: MizSterious

You won’t catch me in South Central Los Angeles at 2am singing Toby Keith songs.


48 posted on 10/14/2010 8:07:28 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: BocoLoco; Little Ray
As someone who sees classified intel, I can tell you these guys do an amazing job. I have no clue how they get some of this stuff, but I highly trust them.

I've read a couple of Friedman's books, and if I was going to guess I'd say he's probably a democrat, but it's pretty hard to tell and he doesn't show any bias that I could pick up on.

49 posted on 10/14/2010 8:09:39 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sounds like we have a writer for the SAE that is bought and paid for by the CARTEL. But hey she has given HILLary a an excuse to do NOTHING.


50 posted on 10/14/2010 8:17:49 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What struck me was the the statment

“His report concludes “halcones,” or Zeta scouts, noticed Mexican tags on the trailer towing the Hartley’s personal watercraft, mistook them as spies for the rival Gulf Cartel and sent radio messages buzzing across the lake. “

The cartle had spies on the lake, the cartels have mountain top spotters near Fenix (AZ) to monitor drugs/human shipments and to warn of police activity.

That level of planning/activity should scare the avg American.


51 posted on 10/14/2010 8:19:36 AM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: muawiyah

The lake provides flood control as well as water and recreational opportunities. Draining it isn’t an option. I agree with the cordon sanitaire, but I think they should also blow up the island they use for a staging area and send in some Apache helicopters to assist the blanket-coverage Coast Guard operation. Kill them all, create a dead zone on the Mexican side of the lake.


52 posted on 10/14/2010 8:19:44 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Mashood

You might think you’re safe from the Mexican thugs in Nevada, but you’re probably not. You need not go into known dangerous areas to find yourself in the middle of things. These thugs are just about everywhere. In an earlier post, I wrote about how they are threatening Oklahoma law enforcement and their families. Let me add that they are also moving into private land. A local rancher was threatened after he discovered marijuana growing in a remote area of his ranch. He’s since sold out, and who knows if it’s in the cartel’s hands, or if someone else is being threatened.


53 posted on 10/14/2010 8:21:39 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: WaterBoard
Poe, R-Texas, whose district contains the U.S. side of border-straddling Falcon Lake, said Tiffany Hartley did not even receive help from the U.S. consulate in Mexico to file a complaint against members of the Zeta drug cartel that is suspected of shooting David Hartley while the couple was skiing through the Mexican side of the border weeks ago.”

Congressman Poe represents a district on the east side of Houston to Beaumont.

http://poe.house.gov/


54 posted on 10/14/2010 8:21:42 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Responsibility2nd
Back in 1979, I went on a geology field trip to Big Bend. One guy said we should cross the border and eat some real Mexican food. We all thought that would be great. So, we headed toward the border. As we were proceeding through customs, (it was a very small border crossing) we found out that it was election day in Mexico so no one could buy beer. We decided to not cross and eat dinner in Mexico.

Ah, the good old days.

55 posted on 10/14/2010 8:26:26 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: MizSterious

“These thugs are just about everywhere. In an earlier post, I wrote about how they are threatening Oklahoma law enforcement and their families. Let me add that they are also moving into private land. A local rancher was threatened after he discovered marijuana growing in a remote area of his ranch. He’s since sold out, and who knows if it’s in the cartel’s hands, or if someone else is being threatened.”

Lets just stick with the Hartley issue. They were in Mexico in a known area of drug running... they knew the score.

US law enforcement can and will deal with crime in the US, regardless of the perps race.


56 posted on 10/14/2010 8:30:34 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Mashood

>>The Hartleys gambled with their lives and lost.<<

It’s that kind of attitude that has led to the state of capitulation that this country is in today. If we can’t even depend on our citizens to act with outrage and action when our borders are as dangerous and porous as they now are, why would the elected officials listen? That statement is indicative of the lack of spine all to evident in American citizen ideology.


57 posted on 10/14/2010 8:33:09 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: BocoLoco

As one might say, the fools outnumber the sane.


58 posted on 10/14/2010 8:45:33 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform)
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To: CynicalBear

The Hartleys are nothing but a number in a very long list of stupid people doing stupid things in other countries. The only difference is that the other country is on our southern border.

I use to go to Mexico, but when I heard that people were being decapitated in places like Cancun, Acapulco, Cabo San Lucas, Mazatlan, and Puerto Valarta, I decided that it was just too dangerous and unpredicatable. Others may want to take their chances and go there.... more power to them. But if they get their head chopped off, don’t go on TV and start crying that they got their head chopped off.


59 posted on 10/14/2010 8:47:48 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Responsibility2nd; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Grain of Salt Ping...


60 posted on 10/14/2010 8:55:28 AM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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