Posted on 10/12/2010 9:42:26 PM PDT by kristinn
Whitman did bring up Rose Bird.
My post was from weeks ago.
Do you think Meg started listening? ;-)
M a y b e ... :)
“Most likely that audience was stacked purposefully with pro Brown voters. Also, why are polictical moderators always extreme left wing liberals? “
I agree. They should do one on Fox and let Hannity moderate. Better yet they should do one about Constitutional knowledge and let Levin moderate.
Jerry blows a whore, is that legal?
Probably impossible the other way around.
Interesting that you came here directly from Drudge’s report on a certain intern. I guess abused women meant something to you at the time.
It was Jerry Brown, himself, who used the W word. I’ve listened to the tape many times and it’s completely obvious. He should have begged forgiveness instead of trying to tough it out.
You don’t have to like Whitman to not use words like “stinking mouth shut.” Ugly, ugly, ugly.
The fact that a creep like Jerry Brown can get elected to any public office speaks volumes about the Once Golden State.
news flash, LA is a charter city and it’s pensions are not set by the state, the city of LA sets the pensions
Aren’t most bonuses tied to stock increases? If so, as a shareholder you would have made $$$ also.
“Most likely that audience was stacked purposefully with pro Brown voters. Also, why are polictical moderators always extreme left wing liberals?”
Does this sort of thing happen?/massive sarc
“Most likely that audience was stacked purposefully with pro Brown voters. Also, why are polictical moderators always extreme left wing liberals?”
Does this sort of thing happen?/massive sarc
“We have a terrible deficit problem in California, a very high unemployment rate and they waste time on this triviality.”
You can bet if the genders were reversed, the socialist propagandists would have run this story right up to the election booth. Are Republicans supposed to be ‘serious’ and let the RATs fight dirty? You may not like this, or either candidate, but you’ve got to prefer the R to the D here, right? Anything that promotes that, I’m fer (sic.)
“If the pension problem is so big, how can you vote for someone that cut a deal with the largest source of the problem? I agree with you it is not a good choice this election. I’m most likely going to sit this one out.”
Sometimes, you have to take steps - and work for Conservatives everywhere else. This is another test of the William Buckley rule - better the R than the D. I can’t even recall who the Conservative option was on the R side in the primary - but they lost...(where’s Ronnie when we need him??) :)
‘“Whore”. Big deal..’
Liberal hypocrisy writ large. That’s the deal.
“Every single company that’s growing grows too fast and too big, then has to spend some time shrinking and reorganizing to become efficient again.”
This is true - and I’ve seen it at my current firm. Look, if you’ve got trouble with Meg, imagine the trouble you’ll have with Gov. Brown...now it’s time for your Tea Party to hold Gov. Whitman accountable...(that would be my answer).
Life is not a snapshot - it’s a marathon - our work is NOT done on 11/3!
“Ask the people how many people she hired at EBay. Any layoffs were small compared to how many new hires occurred during her tenure.”
Oh, but that doesn’t matter, as the media’s not talking about that, and the attack ads don’t address the context./sarc
Unfortunately there are about 6-8 million voters in CA who weren't here for the last Brown fiasco.
Many of whom can't read, apparently.
Yes. It is called leading. If you don't lead, nobody will follow. Fewer and fewer citizens vote. The answer to your question should be obvious.
No outrage if a rapper calls a woman a “Hoe”. Could the black side of Obama get away with it? Hmmm....should I call her a whore or a hoe? Hoe!
“Yes. It is called leading. If you don’t lead, nobody will follow. Fewer and fewer citizens vote. The answer to your question should be obvious.”
I’m not talking about not leading, nor taking the high road. I’m talking about reasonably defending ourselves against dirty tricks (e.g. Gloria Allred’s stunt). You can defend yourself effectively without sounding like a whiner and a victim. For instance, Reagan did it well, W. Bush did not do it well.
I think it’s ‘ho’ for rappers, otherwise you’d be using an implement in the garden. :) My brother and I would cringe when we got ‘H-O’ when we played the basketball game HORSE.
Does he really believe that if she hadn’t taken the $120 million that the 10% wouldn’t have still been let go? If so he is delusional.
That was a useful link and very informative.
I'm having a little difficulty with your reasoning though. She accepted the bonus, right? I guess my morals are different that yours. Accepting something you know you should not have is a wrong as taking it yourself.
STATEMENT FROM WHITMAN: "I was offered $120 million by the board of directors at a time I knew the company was in financial trouble and was planning to lay off many employees. I could not in good conscience accept the bonus and so advised the board of directors."
You point makes no sense. It is precisely because 10% were going to be let go that you don't take the bonus. The company was obviously in trouble. From a business perspective only, it was not a good move.
You are honestly telling me that if you were on the board of directors, knew the company was in serious enough trouble that it had to lay off 10% of the workforce that you will award a $120 million bonus. I would have been pounding my hand on the table and saying, are you nuts!
I must be missing something here. Maybe it is just election time and you are so busy cheerleading you are willing to make excuses for anything.
The campaign tactics of both parties is driving people away from the voting process. Maybe that is the intention. But getting upset becuase someone called you a bad name is the stuff of school yard debate. It is not defending yourself. It is silly, especially in the face of the serious financial trouble we are in. It is sickening to me to watch.
This is not a WWF wrestling match.
The problem with exposing liberal hypocrisy is that it elicits only yawns. There is simply nothing unusual or unexpected about it. Mary Matalin explained this phenomenon a decade (or more) ago. Rudeness, perversion, dishonesty, hypocrisy, and slovenliness are expected, normal traits of the Democrat ilk. Nobody notices it any more than they would notice that a turd stinks. Of course it does.
You would see the same shrugs today even if Brown had called Whitman a “macacca”, whatever that is. The same slur(?) used by a Republican candidate would destroy that candidate, especially if he apologized for it.
Fortunately, this phenomenon is a template that the American public is understanding to a greater degree every election cycle. The public notices the hypocrisy. The Democrat “mainstream” newsrooms are dying off, and a new world of genuine journalism is taking root. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
FRegards,
LH
My point is that the 10% were not laid off so that they could give her the bonus, which is what the ad seems to say to some people.
However, this argument seems to be irrelevant since we now know that the 10% were let go AFTER she had left the company.
“If so he is delusional.”
Or just a manipulative liar...(smirk).
“The problem with exposing liberal hypocrisy is that it elicits only yawns. There is simply nothing unusual or unexpected about it. Mary Matalin explained this phenomenon a decade (or more) ago. Rudeness, perversion, dishonesty, hypocrisy, and slovenliness are expected, normal traits of the Democrat ilk. Nobody notices it any more than they would notice that a turd stinks. Of course it does.”
This is the problem. We expect it to stink, but we should also expect it to be cleaned up, and if they will not clean up themselves, then we will clean them up, as any adult would do for any child. If they act like children we will treat them like children. I thought actually, Meg did a good job of pointing out how childish Jerry Brown or his wife were.
“Fortunately, this phenomenon is a template that the American public is understanding to a greater degree every election cycle. The public notices the hypocrisy. The Democrat “mainstream” newsrooms are dying off, and a new world of genuine journalism is taking root. I wouldn’t have it any other way.”
You’re saying a LOT here that’s very important. Yes, the public is sick of the RAT hypocrisy - which is why it’s at least as important to point it out as ever (think Andrew Brietbart.)
Actually, how people and parties treat and speak to each other, respect and disrespect each other is important - at least as much as money.
I think the Democrat disrespect of Republicans and particularly of Conservatives, is why this site and Conservative media thrives. It’s not unimportant and silly. Go up to any ethnic group (including Caucasians) and slur them and see how silly and unimportant it is.
I just don’t buy your theory that our fiscal problems are more important than our moral suasions.
STATEMENT FROM WHITMAN: “I was offered $120 million by the board of directors at a time I knew the company was in financial trouble and was planning to lay off many employees. I could not in good conscience accept the bonus and so advised the board of directors.”
What’s the source on this, and the timeline between saying it and accepting the bonus?
We are going to go in circles on this one. we obviously have the same political perspective but debating finer details.
So Governor Moonbeam is going to try & hide behind the fact that not all the parties on that tape KNEW they were being taped?
That is just nuts.
IF I have an answering machine, I certainly KNOW that any message is being taped.
Brown knew THEY left the message.
What kind of dodge is Jerry —the Non Attorney General— trying to pull here?
Brown is a creep...
San Rafael is in the northern part of the Bay Area.
Democrat all the way. They would support a rabid raccoon if it was a registered Democrat.
Agreed.
On another note, I was unaware until recently that Brown was Gov. during the Med-fly episode in California. If ever there was an opportunity for an ad..
Not necessarily. Usually to some financial goal, but not directly to stock price.
Example: When Jim Hackett took over as CEO of Seagull, an independent gas exploration and production (E&P) company, his incentive was a promise of a bonus conditioned on concluding a sale of the company by a date certain. He did complete a merger (forming Ocean Energy), but whether that satisfied his board's objective, I don't know; it would be up to his compensation committee.
It was a link from a link in this thread, Sacramnto Bee article I belive. I never attributed anything to Whitman. I started this adventure asking if an ad Brown is running about Whitman is true.
Last night I was listening to KGO, San Francisco. Very liberal and the host is a big leftie. The callers and the host ALL liked Whitman. I was quite shocked, but they were really ticked at Brown and his lack luster, arrogant performance.
It’s an interesting election season, gotta admit that.
If the majority of Californians think Brown is qualified to lead a cat out of a paper bag, then California deserves what it will get.
Gov Jerry Brown. And all that follows.
Once "California!" conjured up visions of beauty, gold, excellence, and endless possibilities. Today it conjures up images of bankruptcy, drug junkies, and human urine and waste on the sidewalks of San Francisco.
And the worst thing of all is that it was all predictable and preventable.
Schwarznegger tried. He failed. He proved that he was not the man for the job. He might have been if he had been smart enough to ignore his wife's brainless advice.
For those of us who've been here that entire time its hard to take.
If I'm a California voter, it damn well is my business.
I would have loved to see FOX News cover this tonight, but its been 24/7 Chile mine rescue. Brown is getting a pass
Message to FOX - Back to the Election Coverage PLEASE
Forgot the sarc tag on that one. Sorry.
“I’m having a little difficulty with your reasoning though. She accepted the bonus, right? I guess my morals are different that yours. Accepting something you know you should not have is a wrong as taking it yourself.”
One thing you don’t seem to consider is that the bonus was, not only in her contract, but approved by the BOD. There is absolutely nothing immoral about that.
To impugn my morals in the way you did is very insulting, to say the least. Unlike so many on the left...that would be you...I happen to believe that contracts should be honored.
I guess you believe that the shareholders in the auto companies should have lost their positions, too? If you say “yes”, I will know you are one who doesn’t believe one should honor contracts.
“STATEMENT FROM WHITMAN: “I was offered $120 million by the board of directors at a time I knew the company was in financial trouble and was planning to lay off many employees. I could not in good conscience accept the bonus and so advised the board of directors.”
Unless you can provide a link to that statement, you should be kicked off of this forum...and don’t even give me the sarcasm excuse that you gave someone else.
It doesn’t wash...
...tonight at Dominican University in San Rafael.
San Rafael is in Marin County, 15% Republican registration.
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