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Rail birthday: Amtrak New train gets one-year profit party
The Hook (Charlottesville, VA) ^ | Thursday, October 07, 2010 | Hawes Spencer

Posted on 10/07/2010 9:42:41 AM PDT by Willie Green

The new Amtrak train in Charlottesville celebrated its one-year anniversary with a Thursday morning party that brought together state and local officials and revealed— sort of— that what might have been a subsidized extension of the Northeast Regional train is actually making a profit.

“They’ve exceeded all our expectations,” said Mayor Dave Norris at the October 7 event.

Last October, the wheels began rolling with a promised three-year state subsidy as Amtrak brought one of its New York-terminating trains though Charlottesville and as far south as Lynchburg.

By July, the train had doubled its goals with $5.2 million in revenue from 103,351 Virginia passengers (against annual goals of $2.6 million from 51,000 passengers). And there are still two months remaining of first-year data yet to be reported.

“This is one of the best-performing trains in the nation,” Thelma Drake, the director of the Virginia Department of Rail and Public Transportation, told celebrants as she noted that there is “a little bit of money in the pot.”

Pressed for details, she deferred to officials in the home office, but told a reporter that the contract for the first year of the service reserves 79 percent of the revenue for the state, which committed nearly two million a year for three years to subsidizing the operating costs. (In a parallel move, the state agreed to subsidize a new link to Richmond for an additional $10+ million.)

It’s tempting to multiply .79 by the revenue and conclude that the state has piggybanked $4.1 million versus that $1.7 million commitment. Is that fair? The Hook has emailed some questions to the home office.

Meanwhile, it appears that 82 people climbed aboard the train whose on-time arrival interrupted the birthday party, and Richards noted that 217 people had already made reservations to climb aboard Friday morning. The goal was to get 70 people boarding each time.

So this is a developing story if it’s the story of a profitable train. On the other hand, Richards conceded in a recent article that the state has handed over $43 million in infrastructure improvements to the rails and stations that made the Lynchburg extension possible. The Hook is seeking details on those expenditures too.

“It was so unheard of that a train would make money,” said Drake.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: amtrak; choochoowillie; williegreen
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1 posted on 10/07/2010 9:42:45 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

I suggest that the books be audited and that proper accounting rules be used and the results published before I believe a word of it.


2 posted on 10/07/2010 9:46:17 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Willie Green

How much of the profit was spent on the party?


3 posted on 10/07/2010 9:46:45 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (I still like peanut butter)
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To: Willie Green

Well, I read the story and I can’t find the profits.


4 posted on 10/07/2010 9:46:53 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Willie Green

There are quite a few businesses that would be profitable if they didn’t count all of their expenses.


5 posted on 10/07/2010 9:47:14 AM PDT by hometoroost (Somewhere a community is missing its cruise director)
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To: Paladin2

I doubt they include all of the costs in their figures.


6 posted on 10/07/2010 9:48:00 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: hometoroost
There are quite a few businesses that would be profitable if they didn’t count all of their expenses.

Not to mention quite a few businesses that would be profitable if the taxpayer was picking up part of the cost.

7 posted on 10/07/2010 9:48:21 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Ditter; sport; Willie Green
Boxcar Willie - Wabash Cannonball
8 posted on 10/07/2010 9:49:11 AM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: pnh102

Competition is easier when there is none.


9 posted on 10/07/2010 9:50:33 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: GeronL

The end of the article tends to indicate that they may not have included the proper amortized fraction of 43 million$ spent on infrastructure for the project.


10 posted on 10/07/2010 9:51:37 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GeronL

They become a lot more profitable with the elimination of investigators who report fraud. No investigator = no fraud.


11 posted on 10/07/2010 9:52:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

lol.

That is so true in an Atlas Shrugs kind of way.


12 posted on 10/07/2010 9:54:21 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Willie Green
This is another

Willie Green Happy Choo-Choo thread.

Promoting 19th Century technology for the 21st Century.

13 posted on 10/07/2010 9:56:18 AM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: Paladin2; Willie Green
Just more publicly financed passenger rail propaganda...most likely the train is only covering it's operating expenses and no consideration is being given to the capital cost. In the private sector world, any one spouting this nonsense would be laughed out of the room.

BTW Willie do you have a fiduciary interest in publicly subsidized passenger rail? It's amazing how much time you're able to devote to posting this stuff.

14 posted on 10/07/2010 10:56:50 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Willie Green

“a little bit of money in the pot.” After years of governmebt run Amtrak operated at a seven billion a year loss.Yeah time to party.


15 posted on 10/07/2010 11:10:58 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Willie Green

Virgil Caine is my name....


16 posted on 10/07/2010 11:14:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Just click your heels together three times...)
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To: Red Dog #1; Willie Green

I think Willie sits around all day smoking Hopium while pushing the “progressive” agenda..


17 posted on 10/07/2010 11:49:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2; Willie Green
Paladin2,
I have to admit your Hopium smoking theory is valid but I like my theory better...Willie is trying to destroy support for passenger rail to help his substantial short rail investments. O:)
18 posted on 10/07/2010 12:30:10 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Red Dog #1

So are the Koch Brothers acting as “The Man” holding short rail down?


19 posted on 10/07/2010 12:41:15 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: jazusamo

:o)


20 posted on 10/07/2010 12:48:38 PM PDT by Ditter
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