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The Legacy Of The Current Recession
The Daily Reckoning ^ | 9-29-2010 | Bill Bonner

Posted on 09/30/2010 4:21:26 PM PDT by blam

The Legacy Of The Current Recession

By Bill Bonner

09/29/10 Baltimore, Maryland – Epithet for a doomed economy…

What will they say? How will they describe the ’00s and ’10s?

Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen was accused of being drunk when he gave a “croaky” radio interview two weeks ago.

He denied it.

But we’d be tempted to turn to the bottle too if we were in the fix Ireland is in. Ireland’s banks got into trouble. So the government threw them a lifeline…forgetting that the line was tied to its own neck. It guaranteed bank liabilities equal to four times Irish GDP. But isn’t that going to be the story of the whole period? Private sector banks and speculators got in trouble. Then, the public sector went down with them.

Irish bond yields hit a new record high yesterday – over 6.7%. Investors are afraid Ireland will default. If it does, its bonds will fall even more.

This is either a great opportunity or a trap. Investors could realize a huge windfall. If Ireland is bailed out…yields could fall in half. Then bond prices would double.

On the other hand, the Emerald Isle could actually default. Bonds could take a big hit.

Which will it be? We don’t know.

But we’ve been thinking a lot about the big picture. If you had been in the 1930s, the big picture would have been as difficult to see as ours is today. You would have had a lot of the same questions. Are stock prices rising or falling? Is the economy recovering or falling apart? Is it inflation we should worry about, or deflation?

But now we have a narrative. We know how it turned out.

There was a huge rally following the crash of ’29. Stocks rose up more than 50% in the “suckers rally.” There were several “recoveries” too. And there were 6 separate quarterly bounces between ’29 and ’33. They averaged 8% each.

Investors were entitled to think that the economy “had turned a corner.” Or, that the worst was behind them. Or, that they were “on the road to real recovery.”

But they would have missed the big picture. Looking back at it, the US economy was in a Great Depression. Investors would have been better off just staying away…from ’29 to ’49. Yes, dear reader, a 20-year period of abstinence would have made the heart grow fonder of equities – even though there were several good years as well as several bad years during that period.

What about now? Are investors kidding themselves by trying to make money in this market? Would they be better off taking a leave of absence for the next two decades?

We have to wonder about the big picture. What will people say about this period 30…50…years from now? How will they describe it? What will be the standard narrative?

Will they say it was a recession followed by a recovery? Nope. That story has gone with the wind. What then?

Maybe they will say it was a credit cycle correction…a balance-sheet recession…much like the ’30s. “Investors should have taken a long sabbatical,” they might say. “They should have sold in 2000…and come back in 2020…”

Maybe… But this time there is more to the story than there was in 1930. Back in the ’30s, the equity market turned sour…but the bond market was still safe and sound. The dollar was still as good as gold. Hundreds of local governments went broke, but there was never any question that the US government would default…or inflate…or ditch its own currency. Investors could take a break from stocks. All they had to do was to sell out…and hold onto their cash. They could buy the same stocks 20 years later for more or less the same prices. Why bother with risk? Why bother with the headaches?

But don’t try that this time, dear reader.

Why can’t you just hunker down…hold cash…and wait until this Great Correction is over? Because this time money itself is up for correction. Yes, that’s right. The dollar is no longer good as gold. Not even close. It was cut loose back in ’71. Ever since it’s been floating on a sea of debt, inflation, and hallucination. The feds imagine that they can create as many dollars as they want. They think inflation is good for the economy.

The US money supply has increased 1,300% since 1970. And now that the economy is correcting, the feds think they can fix the problem with the same thing that caused much of the problem in the first place – more notional dollars.

According to The Financial Times, Ben Bernanke is asking himself: should I, or shouldn’t I.

“Bernanke mulls launching QE2 to keep America afloat,” says the headline.

That’s it! That’s the solution! Flood the economy with dollars!

So, that’s what we’re wondering. When they tell the story of the ’00s and ’10s, they’ll probably omit the ups and downs…the “recovery” sightings…the inflation and deflation fears…

The story will probably go something like this:

“The private sector took on too much debt. It hit the wall. Then, the public sector took on too much debt. It hit the wall a few years later.”

Or, a slightly more detailed version:

“The stock market peaked out in real terms in January 2000. The feds responded with huge inputs of fiscal and monetary stimulus, causing bubbles in housing, finance, oil and other sectors. But the credit expansion had reached its end by 2007. Then, the stock market, real estate market, and the economy all turned down. Despite several futile ‘recoveries,’ the correction continued for the next 10 years. Investors should have gotten out in 2000…and stayed out.

“But not in dollars. Governments pumped trillions into the economy, beginning in 2008 – first borrowed money…and then printed ‘quantitative easing’ money. In the two years following the crisis, for example, only one out of every two dollars spent by the federal government came from tax receipts. The rest was borrowed. Or printed. For a few years, the gravity of private sector de-leveraging kept these additions to the money supply in check. But the feds just kept printing more and more money. And as they printed more paper money, the price of real money – gold – rose.

“And then, all hell broke loose. All of sudden, people lost faith in the dollar. They fell over one another trying to get rid of it. They bought houses, cars, stocks, toilet paper – anything. Most of all, they bought gold. When they could get it. The price rose to $5,000 an ounce…

“…and then it was over. The debt had been washed away. Savings, pensions, insurance plans… They announced a new currency, backed by gold, at $5,000 an ounce. It was over.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: currency; defaults; gold; recession

1 posted on 09/30/2010 4:21:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
And now that the economy is correcting, the feds think they can fix the problem with the same thing that caused much of the problem in the first place – more notional dollars.

Old Chinese proverb: "Todays problems were often yesterdays solutions"

2 posted on 09/30/2010 4:57:36 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: blam

I am not a gold bug. You cannot eat it, but it holds value in tough times. It will buy food.

Technicians will not solve this mess. Sanity and return to old values will. From the bottom up, not from the top down.


3 posted on 09/30/2010 5:16:05 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil
"Sanity and return to old values will. From the bottom up, not from the top down."

You'll like this article.

U.S. Consumers Refusing to Debt Deleverage Will Be Dragged Kicking and Screaming into the Age of Austerity

4 posted on 09/30/2010 5:36:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"What about now? Are investors kidding themselves by trying to make money in this market?"

That depends on how well the components of our US stock market do with their manufacturing and sales in foreign countries. ...and the service "industry" that depends on it. You see, our stock market doesn't really tell us much about the shape we're in.


5 posted on 09/30/2010 5:38:29 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: blam

“Hi ya, neighbor. ...some home-grown, home-canned food and paper products for all of that gold? Sorry, but no thanks. It gives me indigestion. And that jackass city slicker who tried to pull a stickup here to steal food? The Sheriff’s boys thanked us and hauled his carcass off the other day.”


6 posted on 09/30/2010 5:47:11 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: familyop
"“Hi ya, neighbor. ...some home-grown, home-canned food and paper products for all of that gold? Sorry, but no thanks. It gives me indigestion. And that jackass city slicker who tried to pull a stickup here to steal food? The Sheriff’s boys thanked us and hauled his carcass off the other day.”

The day is coming. I have the food and the silver. And, a good stock of lead.

7 posted on 09/30/2010 5:53:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Thanks for the link. I agree with his observations, but do not believe his predictions. There will be survivors in retail but it may not be the “big guys” in the Box Stores. He is right, their model does not consider a sales decline as an outcome.


8 posted on 09/30/2010 5:55:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: familyop; RobRoy
My friend just emailed this to me...says he's interested. I've x'ed out some info.

"15 heavily wooded acres in xxxxxxxx County with cabin. Cabin sleeps 4, wood burning stove, full bathroom. Hwy xx North of xxxxxx. Great timber, power, and county water. Two springs feed into potential lake site, 1 green field. $65,000. Please call (xxx) xxx-xxxx

The are 18,000 people in that entire county...not a long drive from where we live.

9 posted on 09/30/2010 6:03:28 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"U.S. Consumers Refusing to Debt Deleverage Will Be Dragged Kicking and Screaming into the Age of Austerity "

...very well considered and written, and certainly "a best case scenario."


10 posted on 09/30/2010 6:14:39 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: blam; RobRoy
"The are 18,000 people in that entire county...not a long drive from where we live."

That looks really good! I've lived and grown up both a little northwest and southwest of that area--fine weather, fine people and lots of rain and growth. I now live on a part of the rockies where land is cheaper but altitude and weather are truly life-threatening without proper building and other preparations. ...pretty near a 100 miles from the nearest sizable city. It'll do, with greenhouses and the like.


11 posted on 09/30/2010 6:25:10 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: blam
“…and then it was over. The debt had been washed away. Savings, pensions, insurance plans… They announced a new currency, backed by gold, at $5,000 an ounce. It was over.

Much as I would like this disaster to have a happy ending, I don't see this happening. I think having a currency backed by gold means you have to have GOLD to back it. A new currency may arise from this mess, but it won't be US currency.

12 posted on 09/30/2010 6:37:29 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: blam
"Epithet" :-(

When a write misapplies his very first word, the rest of his garbage is not worthy of consideration...

13 posted on 09/30/2010 9:03:34 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA
"When a write misapplies his very first word, the rest of his garbage is not worthy of consideration... "

You mean writer, right?

14 posted on 09/30/2010 9:12:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
ight!

'-}

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(There is a difference between near-blindness and sheer ignorance...)

15 posted on 09/30/2010 9:44:03 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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