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Obama Says “Mexicans” Were Here Long Before the United States Was an Idea (Video)
Gateway Pundit ^ | SEPTEMBER 21, 2010 | Ken Pittman

Posted on 09/21/2010 12:48:37 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Barack Obama told the Hispanic Caucus in his speech that “Mexicans” were here in America long before the United States was an idea.

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To: tina07

*keep*


81 posted on 09/21/2010 1:10:55 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: Hojczyk

Is he an idiot, or what?


82 posted on 09/21/2010 1:11:08 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Hojczyk

The TEXT of the speech says this:

“So let me close by saying this. Long before America was even an idea, this land of plenty was home to many peoples. To British and French, to Dutch and Spanish, to Mexican — (applause) — to countless Indian tribes. We all shared the same land. We didn’t always get along. But over the centuries, what eventually bound us together — what made us all Americans — was not a matter of blood, it wasn’t a matter of birth. It was faith and fidelity to the shared values that we all hold so dear. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights: life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

I note he managed to not say “endowed by their Creator...”

Perhaps he said it differently at the podium.


83 posted on 09/21/2010 1:11:25 PM PDT by Adder (Note to self: 11-2-10 Take out the Trash!!!)
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To: Hojczyk

He could screw up a ball bearing in a bucket of grease.


84 posted on 09/21/2010 1:11:57 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Hojczyk
Mexico 1821 -

USA 1783

He's a moron.

85 posted on 09/21/2010 1:12:27 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (WTF happened to my country?? I joined the Marines and defended the USA and it degenerates into this?)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree with each of your comments. But they are far too restrained. The usurper should be impeached.


86 posted on 09/21/2010 1:12:31 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Correct. It was New Spain until 1813.

In 1813, their declaration of independence was issued, under the name of America Septentrional or "Northern America" - in the sense of being the northern portion of Spain's former American possessions.

After years of war, Spain and America Septentrional signed a peace treaty in which the country was designated as the "Mexican Empire."

After two years of imperial rule, it became "The United Mexican States".

In 1836 the name was changed to the Republic of Mexico, and it has since been changed back to "The United Mexican States."

87 posted on 09/21/2010 1:12:33 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Hojczyk

Well, and even if that were true, they should be the country that everyone should be flocking to, since they got such a head start. Why is that not the case?


88 posted on 09/21/2010 1:13:20 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Hojczyk

So were the Indians. His point is?


89 posted on 09/21/2010 1:13:24 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: mo

Mexico was like 1820 The USA was 1776. They copies our Constitution for their own—not a bad idea. But, their were people in what is today Mexico—BUT it was called New Spain!


91 posted on 09/21/2010 1:13:50 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Hojczyk
DUMB: "The Messicans were here long before whitey or any of those your-a-peons even thought about coming to America."

DUMBER: "I saw an old FDR TV show and he was saying the very same thing."


92 posted on 09/21/2010 1:14:08 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I prayed: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And http://www.kiGod granted it - He sent the Obamas.)
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To: Hojczyk

Well as usual, he is either ignorant or hoping the American news reporters and a majority of the American public is ignorant.

While the SPANISH made colonies in North and South America prior to 1776 and while SPANISH military, SPANISH colonial administrators, and SPANISH Catholic missionaries were operating in parts of North America by 1776,

(1) the REAL Mexicans, the natives of Mexico WERE NOT a dominant part of those efforts (they were the peasants controlled by the Spanish colonialists who were no different than the other Europeans in North and South America) and

(2) the U.S. was a nation BEFORE “Mexico” was an independent nation and not a colony of Spain.

The ignorance of modern Americans - created by the American schools - allows “the Hispanic” activists to present the myth that modern day “Mexicans”, a society driven predominately from the descendants of its European Spanish colonial immigrants and, with SOME of those immigrants the natives they married, presents them collectively, with the same status as people like the Aztecs (nearly decimated) or many of the North American native tribes as “native” here, compared to the society of the United States.

Its a myth; their “nation” and their society is NO LESS a product of European colonialism than the rest of North America.

It’s a convenient myth, pushed by Hispanic activists and various Left wing and “open borders” types, in ignorance by many of them and as never-to-admit lies by those that know better.


93 posted on 09/21/2010 1:14:08 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Hojczyk

In 1870, the U.S. Census reports that the Arizona Territory has a population of 9,658.

The Salt River Valley [Phoenix] has a population of 240, which included 115 Hispanics.


94 posted on 09/21/2010 1:15:25 PM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: Hojczyk

I’m sure if you read his copy of the “History of the 57 US States”, he’s right. I’m sure it’s right in there.

This guy supposedly is educated? I don’t believe it. He’s a vapor.


95 posted on 09/21/2010 1:15:45 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Hojczyk

Memo to the AnnointedIdiot: And? So? =.=


96 posted on 09/21/2010 1:15:54 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Hojczyk

I’m sure if you read his copy of the “History of the 57 US States”, he’s right. I’m sure it’s right in there.

This guy supposedly is educated? I don’t believe it. He’s a vapor.


97 posted on 09/21/2010 1:15:54 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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98 posted on 09/21/2010 1:16:45 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Zakeet
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99 posted on 09/21/2010 1:17:27 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: dirtboy

For sure some Mexicans had wandered up long before any Kenyans got here, anyone tell him that?


100 posted on 09/21/2010 1:17:49 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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