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If We Don’t Build It, They Will Kill You?
Forbes ^ | Claudia Rosett

Posted on 09/10/2010 5:09:25 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah

“Peace” is a word so over-used and abused that by now it’s wise to brace yourself every time some self-declared “peace-maker” pipes up. But even by those standards, the perversion of “peace-making” hit fresh heights Wednesday evening, when CNN’s Larry King Live, guest-hosted by Soledad O’Brien, devoted a full hour to an interview with the imam behind the Ground Zero mosque project, Feisal Abdul Rauf.

Asked if it’s really a good idea to go ahead with his plans to build a mosque and Islamic center at an address so close to Ground Zero that it has become a flash point, Rauf gave a reply that boils down to a threat. Rauf said that if his Cordoba House does not get built on his chosen site near Ground Zero, “The headlines in the Muslim world will be that Islam is under attack.”

Citing Muslim attacks on Danish embassies during the riots in 2006 over Mohamed cartoons Rauf went on to say that the result of this current “crisis” could be that “anger will explode in the Muslim world.” That, he said, could lead to “something which could really become very, very, very dangerous indeed.”

Please bear in mind that CNN beams this stuff out not only across America, but around the globe. While Rauf might proffer that he was merely giving helpful advice, there’s an Islamist audience out there who could hear his well-amplified words – “Islam is under attack” — as a summons to inflict yet more of those explosive onslaughts in which thousands of Americans have already been killed.

As for the message Rauf’s words might impart to the many Americans who oppose his project, his warning doesn’t sound like bridge-building. It sounds like blackmail....

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: groundzero; groundzeromosque; islam; jihad; mosque; rauf; rosett; stealthjihad
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1 posted on 09/10/2010 5:09:27 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

Building it would make no difference.......the bastards would still want to kill us.


2 posted on 09/10/2010 5:13:15 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: Ooh-Ah

Sounds like he’s “not going to toy with his religion”


3 posted on 09/10/2010 5:13:43 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: Ooh-Ah

Good for Forbes! The link is not opening right now. Must be flooding with hits.


4 posted on 09/10/2010 5:14:35 PM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Bring it on, A-H-le! I’m better than you will ever be!


5 posted on 09/10/2010 5:15:04 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: Ooh-Ah

“The headlines in the Muslim world will be that Islam is under attack.”

Sounds like an excellent idea to me, but nuke around the periphery first. After all, if we can seal them in, we don’t have to expend expensive ordnance.

Too, they’ll then start to kill themselves, which’ll minimize the problem in the future.


6 posted on 09/10/2010 5:15:57 PM PDT by benewton (I)
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To: Ooh-Ah
It is being built to celebrate the deaths of Americans
and America ... cheered on by Obama, the DNC and the MSM.

" In Islam, every structure linked to the faith and its rituals has a precise function and character.
A mosque is a one-story gallery built around an atrium with a mihrab (a niche pointing to Mecca)
and one, or in the case of Shiites two, minarets.
This 13-story multifunctional structure couldn't be any of the above.
The groups fighting for the project know this; this is why they sometimes call it an Islamic cultural center.
But there is no such thing as an Islamic culture.
The Prophet imposed his rule on parts of Arabia through a series of ghazvas, or razzias (the origin of the English word "raid").

The ghazva was designed to terrorize the infidels, convince them that their civilization was doomed and force them to submit
to Islamic rule. Those who participated in the ghazva were known as the ghazis, or raiders.
After each ghazva, the Prophet ordered the creation of a rabat -- or a point of contact at the heart of the infidel territory raided.
The rabat consisted of an area for prayer, a section for the raiders to eat and rest and facilities to train and prepare
for future razzias. Later Muslim rulers used the tactic of ghazva to conquer territory in the Persian and Byzantine empires.
After each raid, they built a rabat to prepare for the next razzia.

It is no coincidence that Islamists routinely use the term ghazva to describe the 9/11 attacks against New York and Washington.
The terrorists who carried out the attack are referred to as ghazis or shahids (martyrs).
Thus, building a rabat close to Ground Zero would be in accordance with a tradition started by the Prophet.
To all those who believe and hope that the 9/11 ghazva would lead to the destruction of the American "Great Satan,"
this would be of great symbolic value."



7 posted on 09/10/2010 5:16:42 PM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: Ooh-Ah

My opinion is we are done. I could never imagine us being in a war and worrying about making the enemy mad. But we are.


8 posted on 09/10/2010 5:17:53 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Ooh-Ah

This is where the attention should be.


9 posted on 09/10/2010 5:18:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Ooh-Ah

Cheney is a brilliant man.


10 posted on 09/10/2010 5:19:25 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Communities regularly fight the construction projects, Walmarts Starbucks and even tree removal.)
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To: screaminsunshine

I’m afraid you may be right. And politics won’t save this situation, when the people and their representatives are all either asleep, appeasers, or actively hate America.


11 posted on 09/10/2010 5:23:10 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: mrsmel

bttt


12 posted on 09/10/2010 5:30:56 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: True Grit
Building it would make no difference.......the bastards would still want to kill us.

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Here's some background that the piss-stream media will never tell you.

Let's look overseas: Hamas, which is the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood has been formally designated a terrorist organization under our law for many years. According to its charter, Hamas's purpose is to create an Islamic Palestinian state by eliminating Israel through violent jihad.

The Muslim Brotherhood explained in an internal memorandum that their work in the United States was as a 'grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within.' The Brotherhood said its tactic would be 'sabotage.'

The 1991 memorandum elaborates that every city should have an 'axis' and 'perimeter' from which this jihad-by-sabotage strategy is headquartered. That axis will be known as 'the Islamic Center.' Islamic centers are to become 'the 'base' for our rise, the memo says. They are to be the focal point of education, preparation, and the 'supply of our battalions.' Battalions are small cells of fighters. In Muslim Brotherhood ideology it is assumed that, at a certain mature point, when Muslim forces are strong enough, violent jihad will be effective. And Islamists prepare for it. Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi, the spiritual guide of the Muslim Brotherhood, has proclaimed that 'dawa', the stealth form of jihad, is the method by which Islam will 'conquer America' and 'conquer Europe.'

The Saudis have been underwriting the Brotherhood's dawa efforts for decades.

Islam has three sacred texts: Koran, Sira, and Hadith, or the Islamic Trilogy. The Sira is Mohammed's biography. The Hadith are his traditions -- what he did and said. Sira and Hadith form the Sunna, the perfect pattern of all Islamic behavior.

The Koran is the smallest of the three books, also called the Trilogy. It is only 16% of the Trilogy text. The Sunna is 84%. Most of the Islamic doctrine is about Mohammed, not Allah. The Koran says 91 different times that Mohammed's is the perfect pattern of life. It is easy to understand a biography about a man. To know Islam, know Mohammed.

It turns out that jihad occurs in large proportion in all three texts. The Sira devotes 67% of its text to jihad. Mohammed averaged an event of violence every six weeks for the last nine years of his life. Jihad was what made Mohammed successful.

Mohammed was a preacher of religion, Islam grew at the rate of ten new Muslims per year. But when he turned to jihad, Islam grew at an average rate of ten thousand per year.

All the details of how to wage jihad are recorded in great detail. The Koran gives the great vision of jihad -- world conquest by the political process. The Sira is a strategic manual, and the Hadith is a tactical manual, of jihad.

When we count the magnitude of words devoted to political violence, we have 327,547 words in the Trilogy and 34,039 words in the Hebrew Bible. The Trilogy has 9.6 times as much wordage devoted to political violence as the Hebrew Bible.

The political violence of the Koran is eternal and universal. The political violence of the Bible was for that particular historical time and place. This is the vast difference between Islam and other ideologies. The violence remains a constant threat to all non-Islamic cultures, now and into the future. Islam is not analogous to Christianity and Judaism in any practical way. Beyond the one-god doctrine, Islam is unique unto itself.

IMPEACH-5sm

13 posted on 09/10/2010 5:37:24 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Ooh-Ah

....and the horse he came in on.


14 posted on 09/10/2010 5:46:31 PM PDT by rogator
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To: Ooh-Ah

yes, now that so many fools on the left (and sadly even on the right) have now made Islam the only religion in the world who can shut down free speech with death threats, (and when they do, many stupid Americans will come to THEIR defense when they do it.)

Anything they want or don’t want from now on it will be—

you must do_____ or we will kill you, your troups, etc.

We’ve set a terrible precedent the last few days. I can only hope that we will smarten up some before its too damn late.


15 posted on 09/10/2010 5:47:13 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (American Constitutional rights ARE NOT subject to muslim approval)
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To: BobP

The Old Testiment is full of examples where the only solution for dealing with various nut-case tribes was to wipe them all out. Reform was out of the question.


16 posted on 09/10/2010 5:50:00 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: Ooh-Ah

We’ve been told there’s a good and a bad islam (yeah good luck finding the good one)

Well if that’s so than this POS new age nazi imam is on the bad side for sure.

Why aren’t our leaders saying he is a radical, a terrorist enabler, and that he wishes to desecrate and spit on the graves of 27000 Americans? That this project will only make people even more distrstful and angry at Islam not less? Where is the courage to tell the truth?


17 posted on 09/10/2010 5:54:32 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (American Constitutional rights ARE NOT subject to muslim approval)
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To: Ooh-Ah

The GZ thing is neither a mosque nor cultural center. Link:http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2010/09/ground_zero_thing_is_not_mosque_or_cultural_center.html


18 posted on 09/10/2010 5:54:42 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: True Grit

I agree. Building it or not building it, burning the Koran or not burning it - nothing really matters. They want to kill or conquer us.


19 posted on 09/10/2010 5:57:51 PM PDT by livius
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To: Cubs Fan
Why aren’t our leaders saying he is a radical, a terrorist enabler, and that he wishes to desecrate and spit on the graves of 27000 Americans?

Because they're too busy with the distraction of koran burners.
20 posted on 09/10/2010 5:58:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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