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U.S. Second Fleet in jeopardy as DOD continues to trim budget
WVEC.com ^ | Posted on August 24, 2010 at 7:48 AM | WVEC.com

Posted on 08/24/2010 7:01:48 AM PDT by ryan71

NORFOLK -- The U.S. Second Fleet, which trains and certifies all strike groups before deployment and employs 348 active and reserve military personnel, civilian employees and contractors, is in jeopardy as the Department of Defense continues to trim its budget.

If the Second Fleet were to be shut down, hundreds of jobs could be lost in the Hampton Roads area.

Retired Navy Captain Joe Bouchard says that any potential cost savings would come at a big price.

Captain Bouchard is the former commanding officer of Naval Station Norfolk and now a board member of the Hampton Roads Military and Federal Facilities Alliance.

"I'm concerned that the Department of Defense is scrambling for savings somewhere in its budget."

He says he thinks that the civilian bureaucrats in the Pentagon may not fully understand the operational impact of shutting down certain commands.

The fleet trains and certifies every ship, sailor, and air wing that heads out to sea, with responsibility over 130 ships and submarines primarily in the Atlantic Ocean.

Security, in addition to the hundreds of jobs, could be at risk.

"We don't even want to think about the degradation of the combat readiness of those forces either to deploy overseas or to carry out their homeland defense role," says Captain Bouchard.

(Excerpt) Read more at wvec.com ...


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1 posted on 08/24/2010 7:01:49 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: ryan71

No ships east of Suez.


2 posted on 08/24/2010 7:04:50 AM PDT by kabar
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To: ryan71
If the Second Fleet were to be shut down, hundreds of jobs could be lost in the Hampton Roads area.

US defense is not a jobs program. If that's the #1 argument you can muster, then there is no useful purpose for the fleet at current size.

3 posted on 08/24/2010 7:12:08 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: ryan71
"If the Second Fleet were to be shut down, hundreds of jobs could be lost in the Hampton Roads area."

Lost jobs are of secondary importance. What would it do to our national security?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

4 posted on 08/24/2010 7:12:29 AM PDT by wku man (Steel yourselves, patriots, and be ready. Won't be long now....)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Do you remember the hollow military that Carter left us with?


5 posted on 08/24/2010 7:15:05 AM PDT by republicangel
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To: Sgt_Schultze
"US defense is not a jobs program. If that's the #1 argument you can muster, then there is no useful purpose for the fleet at current size."

From the article:
"The fleet trains and certifies every ship, sailor, and air wing that heads out to sea, with responsibility over 130 ships and submarines primarily in the Atlantic Ocean."

I'm not an expert on what this command does but it sounds like more than a jobs program. And yes, we do need a fleet at it's current size. Most likely a little larger. I know our current leader thinks his words solve a lot of problems in the world, but the truth of the matter is that a lot of diplomacy gets handled when a carrier group is in the area.
6 posted on 08/24/2010 7:16:34 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: ryan71

Since we’re cutting back all these troops and fleets, we’re gonna start hearing about cutbaacks in cushy command jobs that are no longer needed...right?


7 posted on 08/24/2010 7:18:49 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The current pretender to the throne . . .

is more intent on shredding our defense capacities than his predecessor the TRAITORS-IN-CHIEF KLINTOONS were.

Fire the WhiteHouse and Congress first.

Suicidal idiots.


8 posted on 08/24/2010 7:20:49 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: ryan71

Yeah, keep slapping the sh*t out of us here in Hampton Roads, 0bama. I guess Virginia dared step on your toes one time too many, huh?

FUBO!


9 posted on 08/24/2010 7:23:23 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: ScottinVA

You nailed it, that’s exactly what is going on here. This is payback for the VA Healthcare lawsuit.


10 posted on 08/24/2010 7:27:39 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Sgt_Schultze
US defense is not a jobs program. If that's the #1 argument you can muster, then there is no useful purpose for the fleet at current size.

True, but the problem here is the way in which this is being done. Like the case of USJFCOM, it's appearing that the cabal of leftists in the Regime wants to jam through these cuts via decree, rather than the correct way of the BRAC.

Just because the king says so, doesn't make it so.

11 posted on 08/24/2010 7:27:44 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: magslinger

ping


12 posted on 08/24/2010 7:32:46 AM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: ScottinVA

Pretty soon our total defense program with the Executive Protection guards at 1600 Penn Ave. The good news with that is Obozo is out of the office most of the time on the road.


13 posted on 08/24/2010 7:33:33 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: ryan71

Pretty soon, Joint Forces will refer to cannibis the way this is going. And the 2nd Fleet will come in dead last in the world, even in mothballs.

Barney Frank mentioned slashing the DoD budget by $1 T.

Carter
Clinton
Obama

Gutting security for the sake of our enemies.

This isn’t just guns or butter. There’s not enough butter anyway. We’re just throwing away the churns.


14 posted on 08/24/2010 7:34:37 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

If Congress was serious, the budget would reflect that we are at War. Obviously, the prior Admin and this one, didn't think so.

15 posted on 08/24/2010 7:44:20 AM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: ryan71
Hey Norfolk! Elections have consequences!

2008 Election Results - Norfolk
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Obama - 62,819
McCain - 24,818

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Seriously, Norfolk. Do you think a Navy guy like McCain would close down the biggest port on the Atlantic Ocean?

16 posted on 08/24/2010 7:53:45 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Palter

I’m not disputing this. However, the minimal loss of life in these two engagements, by comparison to WWII and Nam, are worth remembering.

Then again, the collonade at the Seoul museum, which used to be their defense building complex, is covered, literally covered with plaques of the dead on these huge columns on three sides. Now, IIRC, the one side is for NK troops, but to see the bronze placques with the names of the American & SK dead makes you stand back in awe.

We lost over 50,000 men and women in Nam, too. 50,000+. And in WWII, I don’t even remember the numbers for D-Day. That our fighting forces have been able to avoid such carnage on these tight budgets for Iraq & AfgPak is a real blessing to us all.

If we think about all those faces in photos and videos that we see of our best and brightest, many of whom died in these wars, and realize all those people died in our names and for our futures—handing over the dirt and economic might of the country in whose name they fought to anti-American, un-American ingrates who sell us into servitude, foreign, foreign-born, or domestic, makes us accomplices. We’re to the point of not being worthy for them to wipe their shoes on, or, as Patton said, to use our guts to grease the treads of their tanks.

Shame. For shame that DC and its treasonous ba$tards & dykes think there is no day of judgment.


17 posted on 08/24/2010 8:02:47 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: ScottinVA
My son, a Navy Captain, sent in his resignation last month, which means he'll be out of the service sometime next Spring.

He'll have about 24 years in and was going to stay to 30, but I guess he's had enough of the current situation.

Since his job was Top Secret and I never knew what he was doing, I can't say whether it was necessary or not, but he worked 12-14 hour days so it must have been something.

18 posted on 08/24/2010 8:50:39 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: USS Alaska

Thank him for his service through tough times for me! I wish him the best success in civilian life.


19 posted on 08/24/2010 9:38:16 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; investigateworld; lowbuck; ...
SONOBUOY PING!

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Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
The only requirement for inclusion in the Navair Pinglist is an interest in Naval Aviation.
This is a medium to low volume pinglist.

20 posted on 08/24/2010 12:16:58 PM PDT by magslinger (DISCLAIMER: No liberals were harmed in the making of this post. I'm sorry and will try harder.)
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