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Which Islam Will Prevail in America?
National Review ^ | Andrew c. McCarthy

Posted on 08/21/2010 9:33:24 PM PDT by ventanax5

The real battle for religious freedom lurks beneath the Ground Zero mosque controversy. It is sadly ironic that our public debate presents the mosque proponents as the partisans of liberty: That includes everyone from imam Feisal Rauf, the project’s sharia-touting sponsor, to President Obama, Mayor Bloomberg, and the rest of the Islamist-smitten Left, to the GOP’s own anti-anti-terrorist wing. Yet, wittingly or not, when they champion this mosque and its sponsors, it is the agenda of an alien and authoritarian Islam that they champion — an Islam against which many American Muslims chafe.

When it comes to liberty, no one in this society has been given a wider berth than the Islamists, the purveyors of this authoritarian Islam, which is the mainstream Islam of the Middle East. Their vise grip on the American Muslim community has been cinched for two decades by the government, the media, and the academy. For our post-American ruling class, “Islamic outreach” means prostituting themselves for Saudi largesse; it means putting the “moderate” label on the Muslim Brotherhood — the Saudi-backed saboteurs whose American operatives boldly promise to “eliminate and destroy Western Civilization from within.”

The victims of this lethal charade include American Muslims. They, too, crave religious liberty and Western enlightenment. Our elites abandon them to the sharia-mongers. That freedom destroyers have been allowed to pose as freedom defenders ought to tell mosque opponents something: We have done a poor job of explaining the stakes.

In 1993, I headed up a prosecution team that was preparing to try the “Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdel Rahman and eleven other jihadists for conducting a terrorist war against the United States. The case revealed this country’s Muslim divide.

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To: Publius6961

“Eliminate the two components that are eternally incompatible with our present Constitution, and it is no longer islam.”

Which part is compatible with America?

Islam is antithetical to America, and it is also irreconcilable with America.


21 posted on 08/21/2010 10:10:34 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: plinyelder

Relax, we haven’t played “Cowboys and Rug-Pilots” yet.


22 posted on 08/21/2010 10:16:49 PM PDT by GunningForTheBuddha ("There is an 'I' in Marxist")
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To: GladesGuru

Sorry I didn’t read as far down as your post and did not realize you had beaten me to the point.


23 posted on 08/21/2010 10:19:40 PM PDT by GunningForTheBuddha ("There is an 'I' in Marxist")
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To: ventanax5

Which Islam? They both lead to the same thing!


24 posted on 08/21/2010 10:22:04 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: ventanax5

The “islam, amen, cough, clear throat, “religion”, is a beard for the takeover of the world by the muslims. How smart does someone have to be to see this????


25 posted on 08/21/2010 10:24:55 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: ventanax5
Q: Which Islam Will Prevail in America?

A: NO Islam Will Prevail in America!

Get used to it moslems. Don't care for our attituude? Leave!

26 posted on 08/21/2010 10:33:28 PM PDT by upchuck (Unemployment benefits -- the NEW Welfare.)
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To: ventanax5

neither


27 posted on 08/21/2010 10:36:33 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: GunningForTheBuddha

THAT .. is funny as hell!


28 posted on 08/21/2010 10:45:30 PM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: GladesGuru
Which part is compatible with America?

Only the religious element of the three major components.
Goes without saying that there would be NO sharia Law, unqualified adherence to civil final authority in all things, and ZERO tolerance demanded of muslins in America for the armed militant component of their damned "religion".

But as I said, that is no longer the islam we know and love and, I'm convinced, not likely ever to happen.

29 posted on 08/21/2010 10:46:50 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: ventanax5

If American Muslims do not step up to the public plate, they are supporters of the radical incursion,either we empower them to step up, or we treat them like all the rest, as unpatriotic malingerers who do not have the courage to become genuine American Muslims.

They want to sit on the fence, then they must take the consequences of their non feasance when their country needs them.


30 posted on 08/21/2010 10:51:13 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Publius6961

I would suggest that even the purely theological aspect would be antithetical to America as we are sovereign citizens, whereas Muslims are “willing slaves of Allah”.


31 posted on 08/21/2010 10:52:11 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GunningForTheBuddha

“Cowboys and Rug-pilots” - I hadn’t heard that one.

Are you perchance a pilot?


32 posted on 08/21/2010 10:54:02 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

Yes islam is diametrically opposed to western civilization.

Why is it that islam can’t get along with Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Red Chinese? I guess it must be everyone else that is so hard to get along with ... not the slimes, right?


33 posted on 08/21/2010 10:55:09 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: ventanax5

Everyone should have read these links by now...

http://bigpeace.com/cbrim/2010/08/17/ground-zero-mosques-hidden-websites-follow-the-shariah/

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/imam-raufs-newly-discovered-explosive-audio-tapes.html


34 posted on 08/21/2010 10:59:24 PM PDT by Chattering Class of 58
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To: ventanax5
Trust any form of Islam on our shores?

I'd rather take my chances giving a pit bull a gun, half-rack of beer and kicking it in the face.

35 posted on 08/21/2010 11:03:26 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: All
"For evil to flourish, all that is needed is for good people to do nothing." - Edmund Burke


A Christian Nation cannot put up a Christmas scene of the baby Jesus in a public place, but the Muslims can stop normal traffic in NEW YORK!










This is in New York City on Madison Avenue, not in France or the Middle East or Yemen or Kenya.

http://www.resistnet.com/group/thecornerstoneofthenation/forum/topics/this-is-nyc-on-madison

36 posted on 08/21/2010 11:08:49 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: Frantzie

I was searching my files for the saved files about Muslim/Islam behaviors based on their populace. The “peace loving” Muslims in our country have already showed who’s side they are on by their mute response for the past 9 years plus. If they live long enough to see Islamization of the USA they will do what Islam wants. During the ride from here to there they will NOT stand in the way of Islam’s march to a majority.
Do not be fooled by Muslim’s “peaceful” behavior here in the USA. Their behavior is par for the course and will change as their % of population increases.


37 posted on 08/21/2010 11:09:21 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Trusting God is a full time job, He is on duty 24/7 .)
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To: ventanax5

The title makes me want to barf.


38 posted on 08/21/2010 11:14:59 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: ventanax5

Islam is Islam, and games are games, and some of us insist on playing dangerous games with our children’s futures. The numbers game we play with Islam, pretending there is a ratio of good Muslims to bad Muslims, wishes away the fact that all Muslims drink in the same spiritual poison. Some get sicker than others. None of it is good.


39 posted on 08/21/2010 11:36:04 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

well that pretty much explains why Obama rejected the gift of a bust of Churchill offered by Great Britain, doesn’t it?


40 posted on 08/21/2010 11:48:50 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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