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Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims
Newsmax.com ^ | June 20, 2002

Posted on 08/19/2010 5:13:49 PM PDT by Man50D

WASHINGTON – A leader of the small worldwide Muslim reform movement is warning the West against wishful thinking as the U.S. government promotes an intensive dialogue with Islam.

"The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other," Bassam Tibi said Tuesday in an interview with United Press International.

Syrian-born Tibi, who claims to be a direct descendant of the prophet Mohammed and teaches political science at Goettingen University in Germany, appealed for intellectual honesty in these exchanges.

This Is 'Peace'?

"First, both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them. The word 'peace,' for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam – or 'House of Islam' – to the entire world," explained Tibi, who is also a research scholar at Harvard University.

"This is completely different from the Enlightenment concept of eternal peace that dominates Western thought, a concept developed by Immanuel Kant," an 18th-century philosopher.

This Is 'Tolerance'?

"Similarly, when Muslims and the Western heirs of the Enlightenment speak of tolerance they have different things in mind. In Islamic terminology, this term implies abiding non-Islamic monotheists, such as Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, as second-class believers. They are 'dhimmi,' a protected but politically immature minority."

According to Tibi, the quest of converting the entire world to Islam is an immutable fixture of the Muslim worldview. Only if this task is accomplished, if the world has become a "Dar al-Islam," will it also be a "Dar a-Salam," or a house of peace.

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The article is eight years old but it seems as appropriate today as it did in 2002.
1 posted on 08/19/2010 5:13:53 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

You mean like the GZ mosque Imam.... =.=


2 posted on 08/19/2010 5:15:29 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

Imam Obama certainly meets the main requirement of lying to the Infidels.


3 posted on 08/19/2010 5:17:47 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: cranked

The president has two faces????!?


4 posted on 08/19/2010 5:18:10 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: cranked

Sounds like McCain


5 posted on 08/19/2010 5:18:12 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Man50D

Islam has to lie because it’s weak.

Lying is necessary for those who deny reality. Reality always wins.


6 posted on 08/19/2010 5:18:21 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Man50D
The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other...

Straight from the camel's mouth.

7 posted on 08/19/2010 5:19:56 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Man50D

Peace: is the absence of resistance and submission.

Of course it is called the religion of peace; no resistance is allowed.

The political class believes they can control such a military and quasi-governmental movement disguised within Islam, through public manipulation pretending that Islamic precepts are just words.


8 posted on 08/19/2010 5:20:21 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Man50D
It will happen. That seemingly nice little muslim family down the block,...you know, the one with the kids that you see at the Jr. High. Yeah, that one. Well he's about to get a phone call from another muslim he's never met. He'll be told that his 'mission' is to kill your family and slit your throats. And that if he refuses, he and HIS family will be killed, but not until they've forced him to watch his wife and daughters being raped and gutted.

Yeah, that nice little muslim down the block. Wait, is that someone at the door.........?

9 posted on 08/19/2010 5:21:18 PM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: Man50D
"The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other," Bassam Tibi said Tuesday in an interview with United Press International.

And two-facedness and gullibility are both descriptions that are probably too kind. The Muslims are liars and deceivers and the Westerners are self-deluded fools, mostly self-deluded by their great need to be PC and 'inclusive'.

10 posted on 08/19/2010 5:27:07 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Man50D

It should be SOP that if you are not able to fully support Western values and by the most terrible oath renounce allegiance to the promotion of the violent political and cultural paradigms of Islam you should not be given asylum in a Western democracy.


11 posted on 08/19/2010 5:39:52 PM PDT by februus
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To: Man50D

Sounds like this person is threatening 0bama.

Because 0bama is, in my opinion, a two-faced Muslim.


12 posted on 08/19/2010 5:42:39 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks Man50D.
"The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other," Bassam Tibi said Tuesday in an interview with United Press International. Syrian-born Tibi, who claims to be a direct descendant of the prophet Mohammed and teaches political science at Goettingen University in Germany, appealed for intellectual honesty in these exchanges.

13 posted on 08/19/2010 6:46:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Man50D

I suspect that the gullibility of “Western idealists” is lubricated by baksheesh i.e., encouraged by nice little gifts from the Arabs with oil dollars.


14 posted on 08/19/2010 7:16:41 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: SunkenCiv

Our trusting moose limbs is like the frog trusting the scorpion.


15 posted on 08/20/2010 4:55:58 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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