Posted on 08/13/2010 3:37:36 PM PDT by La Lydia
When it comes to tribalism, all religions are tribes calling for members to follow party lines.
In that sense, using a “tribal” exemption argument is ridiculous.
LLS
I think I’m aware of the time frame when this was decided. They forced Texas to educate Mexicans here illegally. Before the 1970s, children of illegals were not allowed to register in the TX schools. This surprised me because they did attend school in CA, where I am from. In fact, I’m aware of an Australian couple who got crosswise with immigration (long story) who were advised to put their sons in private school while they fought their battle with immigration so that the immigration judges could not say that they were taking taxpayer funded education services illegally. They enrolled the kids in boarding school in PA — cost a fortune.
Weather or not the 14th amendment rewards citizenship to the children if illegal aliens. The 14th amendment HAS been used to legalizes the abortion of 40 million babes. Just as the 14th amendment HAS been used to rob us of our right to the definition of Marriage.
Indeed the 14th amendment has already been used to to rob us of countless other rights ranging from “Affirmative action” to incorporation.
The 14th Amendment needs to be repealed, and if it can’t be repealed politically we should look into dissolving the union. No free people should tolerate this abusive(as it has been used) amendment.
This is why I propose the simple Constitutional amendment:
{
Section 1:
The Fourteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Section 2:
No Government in the United States shall in anyway discriminate on the account of race.
}
Indeed the 14th Amendment should never have been accepted as having been radiated in the first place given 11 of the ratifying states did so only under the gun with the explicit understanding that they would not be free unless they did sign away their rights with this amendment to the tyrannical federal government.
The money quote---unconstitutional and directly from the Supreme Court (in bold below):Ann Coulter: JUSTICE BRENNAN'S FOOTNOTE GAVE US ANCHOR BABIES (Not The Constitution)
JUSTICE BRENNAN'S FOOTNOTE GAVE US ANCHOR BABIESAugust 4, 2010Democrats act as if the right to run across the border when you're 8 1/2 months pregnant, give birth in a U.S. hospital and then immediately start collecting welfare was exactly what our forebears had in mind, a sacred constitutional right, as old as the 14th Amendment itself. The louder liberals talk about some ancient constitutional right, the surer you should be that it was invented in the last few decades.
The very author of the citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob Howard of Michigan, expressly said: "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers."
In the 1884 case Elk v. Wilkins, the Supreme Court ruled that the 14th Amendment did not even confer citizenship on Indians -- because they were subject to tribal jurisdiction, not U.S. jurisdiction.
For a hundred years, that was how it stood, with only one case adding the caveat that children born to legal permanent residents of the U.S., gainfully employed, and who were not employed by a foreign government would also be deemed citizens under the 14th Amendment. (United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 1898.)
And then, out of the blue in 1982, Justice Brennan slipped a footnote into his 5-4 opinion in Plyler v. Doe, asserting that "no plausible distinction with respect to Fourteenth Amendment 'jurisdiction' can be drawn between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was lawful, and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful."
There are a handful of RINOs hiding behind the 14th to dodge the immigration issue. I heard McCain utter this nonsense today.
Same thing happened on the Separation of Church and State issue.
McQueeg’s lapdog Pandsey Graham as well. Graham’s making noises about wanting to amend the Fourteenth to explicitly prevent birthright citizenship. The guy’s a lawyer, he knows damn good and well that Congress and the President could do it anytime they wanted by simply passing legislation to enforce it, as per Section 5. It’s nothing more than a sound bite he can throw at the restless Republicans in South Carolina to try and sound tough on immigration as he tries to help McQueeg and the Rats sneak through “comprehensive immigration reform”—otherwise known as amnesty.
Build the fence. Secure the border. Deport. NOW.
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Freddy’s been saying that right along. He was a big supporter for Bush’s amnesty too.
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He burned his bridge with me tonight... I knew that he was a liberal... but being for the outright invasion of our nation and the ignoring of our immigration laws... and in some cases promoting the violent overthrow of our western States... and then rewarding those actions with the granting of citizenship of America... then I have nothing but disdain for the spineless jelly fish.
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Barnes was pilloried on this site for supporting amnesty during Bush’s term. Obviously he hasn’t changed and seems to have grown more liberal as he’s gotten older. Nothing would destroy this country faster than another amnesty and anyone who doesn’t see that is either fooling themselves or wants it to happen.
There is not one angstrom’s width between our opinions!
LLS
I haven't read the whole speech yet but this obviously brings up a flaw in the reasoning that simply being born in the U.S. means that you're under its jurisdiction. Would a child born to a foreigner who does not desire U.S. citizenship for them be a U.S. citizen? According to the logic of those who say the 14th A. confers citizenship on anyone born on our soil citizenship would be forced on the newborns of foreigners who don't want it. That has never happened.
Hmm...it’s not a new argument.
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