Posted on 08/07/2010 3:45:37 AM PDT by Cardhu
You posts demonstrate a simplistic and narrow understanding of Christianity and history. You have shown that you know very little about the role of Christians in battle and the sacred concept of just wars.
Luke 19:27:
“But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.”
Either let out military forces win, or get them out of there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6gy_krPau8
FUBO
Oh. A RINO.
Tell Steve Schmidt and David Brooks we said "Hi."
Cheers!
Hey Mr President... do those folks sound like they want to sit around and sing ‘Kumbaya’ like just plain folks?
> Islam has never had a reformation
Yes they have. Their “Luther” is bin Laden.
You see, fundamentalist Islam is rabidly violent.
Fundamentalist Christianity is inherently peaceful.
All that’s needed is to compare the lives Mohammed and Jesus and read their instructions to their disciples.
You are simply incorrect if you still think that ALL Christians in ALL of recorded history have NOT EVER instigated ANY acts of violence or atrocities on others, and that ALL of their violent acts have been ONLY in the cause of “just wars” and of self-defense. That, my friend, is the essence of delusion.
You can quote all the Scripture you want, but it will not change the fact that people of ALL religious faiths have committed unjustified atrocities at one time or another throughout mankind’s history.
Issuing ad hominem attacks, now, huh? My, that’s very big of you.
I can’t STAND RINOs or neocons and anyone who has read my posting history would absolutely know that.
NEXT!
2 Americans, 6 Germans, 2 Afghans dead. Happened at Kili Zangal village, Koshal area, Kiran wa Munjan district, Badakhshan province.
The group had been invited to Nuristan to provide medical care there, were done and returning to the Noor Eye Hospital in Kabul where they worked.
Christians are what I have repeatedly told you they are - defenders of the way of life the Lord Jesus chose for us -—not the blatant lies and exagerrations you and other secularists insist on repeating like a broken record —— .
You do not have to like strong commited Christians. We can get by fine without your secular libertarian support. We’ve been doing it for 2000 years or so.
Thank you gandalftb for the additional info.
Cheers!
I have nothing against strong committed Christians; I was raised Christian. You are having trouble disconnecting your defense of your faith (which is not the issue here) with the straightforward factual statement that I am making which is that people are people, no matter what faith, and that there have been Christians — ones that have even considered themselves to be fully acting in God’s name and upon God’s Word — that have committed atrocities. You are taking that statement as some sort of affront to your faith. It is not. It is simply a response to a statement that you made that stated that there have not been ANY Christians EVER in history that have committed any atrocities or violent deeds, except as Liberators or Defenders of the Way. This is simply false, and I pointed that out. People are people and as such are fallible, no matter how “righteous” in their faith they claim to be, and some are more fallible than others and yes, even have committed unjustifiable atrocities. This statement was not an affront to you personally or your Christian faith, but you seem to want to take it as such. By the way, I am not a secularist. Nor am I strictly Christian although I was raised Lutheran. I have a strong faith, and that faith is much wider now than is more narrowly defined by Christianity yet still encompasses Christianity and does not reject it at all. My posting history here bears that out. Again, you seem to be having trouble disconnecting the true statement that people of all faiths have committed atrocities in the name of their religion throughout history, from the also true statement that Christianity is a worthy faith and a true, good path in which to lead one’s life. The first statement does not invalidate the second.
You quoted it and misinterpreted it. Not sure how you get RINO out of fiscal conservative with a few libertarian (small “l” not capital “L”) leanings on some select issues. I have posted many posts deriding liberals, RINOs and neocons alike.
That particular way of putting it doesn't quite imply, but still connotes, the idea that slaughter, rapine, and torture are the common thread of religions -- neglecting that such things have been common throughout ALL of recorded history, for lots of different reasons.
So, phrased in that way, it smells of atheistic hubris...
(Yes, this was near the top of your posting history. I'll scroll further down, too.)
Cheers!
Says they were killed execution style
Means that they were beheaded.
God rest their souls.
They were shot after the Taliban found Bibles in the Persian language according to the Taliban.
No, that is not what I am saying at all. Again, my statement was quite straightforward and pretty simple to understand: simply the fact that people of all faiths have committed atrocities -- just a short renunciation of another poster's statement that no Christians in all of recorded history have ever instigated unjustified violence.
Your error (and I think, partly, the other poster's also) is in incorrectly equating what I said about the people with being some sort of disparaging or dismissing statement about the Christian faith in general and of Jesus' original, uncorrupted message. It is not equatable. Understand where I'm coming from and what I'm saying now?
Yes, lined up and shot with AK-47s, is what I read. Terrible. I really feel for the families of these people.
They were shot after the Taliban found Bibles in the Persian language according to the Taliban.
Who cares? The Taliban are lying or the people were not operating in reality.
I do not want any American soldiers at risk because some do-gooder decides to careen across enemy territory. Personally I would like to see all our soldiers home and let the middle east stew in its own juices.
I used the phrase "doesn't quite imply, but still connotes" because I meant to say just that: you didn't phrase things strongly enough for a Dawkins type, but you left the screen door open, so to speak.
And note that I said *all* religions: not just Christianity.
There are pre-Christian religions which apparently did some pretty nasty things: there are post Christian religions which *continue* to do bad things.
One of the the differences of Christianity is that its founder (and its dogma) did not enjoin the slaughter of multiple humans either as an offering to God, or to spread the faith.
The only one killed as an offering to God WAS the founder: and the instrument of His torture and death is recognized worldwide as the symbol of this faith.
Cheers!
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