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To: filbert

Degenerate art was encouraged to take down America. Competition was ended in the nineties. If there was a Valedictorian, there were 7 or 8....which made it meaningless.
Excellence is discouraged. Our schools are set up to make “divergent” thinkers feel humiliated, different and an outsider. Conformity is how today’s classrooms are designed.
Group work (encourage communes and dependence)is always done now. Individuality, independence from teacher, is strictly discouraged and demonized. They teach dependence on the teacher for every move—you have to get permission for everything, even to go to the bathroom. They are being CONDITIONED. (I would NEVER put my kids in the public schools.....they teach moral relativism on top of it all which leads to nowhere).

Our future creative people will NOT come from public schools. The Progressive Communists and Unions are making sure of that.

They want little conformists who follow the group’s thinking.


17 posted on 08/02/2010 9:09:21 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
Degenerate art was encouraged to take down America. Competition was ended in the nineties. If there was a Valedictorian, there were 7 or 8....which made it meaningless. Excellence is discouraged. Our schools are set up to make “divergent” thinkers feel humiliated, different and an outsider. Conformity is how today’s classrooms are designed.

Interesting; this fairly accurately describes how I feel in the University. Being a CS major, I can tell you that there's an almost cult-like following for Unix/Linux and C/C++; if you've got the idea to write an OS in a true high-level language expect the question "why don't you just download the sources for Linux [and make your own flavor/distro]" or "Everybody uses Assembly, C, or C++ for systems-programming; why are you trying to use Pascal?" {I started the project in Pascal; but am moving to Ada.}

Group work (encourage communes and dependence) is always done now.

Tell me about it. I hate group work as it's done in schools; it seems like your one of the ones pulling the group along or the group disregards your suggestions/ideas.

Individuality, independence from teacher, is strictly discouraged and demonized.

True. I've got a little supposition that this is one reason that people seem to have the attitude that those in authority are good and right and deserving of respect and the position because they occupy that position of authority. {A bit of circular-logic.}

They teach dependence on the teacher for every move—you have to get permission for everything, even to go to the bathroom. They are being CONDITIONED. (I would NEVER put my kids in the public schools.....they teach moral relativism on top of it all which leads to nowhere).

It's actually kind of sad; isn't it?

Our future creative people will NOT come from public schools. The Progressive Communists and Unions are making sure of that.

Where do you suppose future creative people will come from?

They want little conformists who follow the group’s thinking.

They do. And I believe that is a very dangerous place to be as a society; the 'group' has less moral-restriction implementationally-speaking because psychologically the 'guilt' is shared (perhaps to the extent that it is wholly rationalized away) and because of this perceived lessening of 'guilt' the group can do more evil than any one individual could [assuming they have a conscience].

25 posted on 08/03/2010 7:32:23 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: savagesusie
Individuality, independence from teacher, is strictly discouraged and demonized.

I saw evidence of this 20 years ago when my ad agency was asked to help out with the annual Great American Smoke-Out in our local community. The Cancer Society wanted to target children for this particular year, so I conducted a poster contest for elementary school kids. I won a poster contest myself when I was in 4th grade, maybe that's why I thought of it.

When it came time to judge the entries, I was amazed to discover that there were no individual entries. There were class entries: six to ten posters from kids in one class, all of them variations on the same theme, with about 10 classes participating. Some of them were pre-printed posters the teacher had made and each kid colored it by themselves.

There were zero examples of a kid making something up himself. Every poster was merely a reflection of what the teacher told them all to do.
27 posted on 08/03/2010 11:09:07 AM PDT by Colinsky
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