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Maybe it takes a lot more brains to survive in Norway than in a warm place.
1 posted on 08/02/2010 3:00:34 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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Federal grant money probably paid for this “study” and the author will undoubtably get the Nobel Prize... in keeping with the tradition of Obama/Gore/Krugman.


2 posted on 08/02/2010 3:05:19 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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Not all warm places are easy. It seems to me that it would take plenty of brains to survive in the Kalahari, or to chart the islands of Polynesia. And it’s probably a lot easier to store food in Norway, than in the Amazon.


3 posted on 08/02/2010 3:05:45 PM PDT by heartwood
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A lot of glittering generalities here with few specifics to back them up.


5 posted on 08/02/2010 3:11:30 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin)
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Seems like this study ignores the role of culture. In those societies where freedom and property rights were the norm, technology advanced. Why develop anything if the government will only take it away and redistribute it.


9 posted on 08/02/2010 3:20:02 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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I didn’t have kindergarten when I went to school.
That must make me smart.


10 posted on 08/02/2010 3:23:09 PM PDT by hkp123
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even BEFORE the slave trade and colonialism

This study is obviously racist.

11 posted on 08/02/2010 3:23:43 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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Totally disagree conclusions of this superficial analysis.
Based on my study of history, wealth is positively correlated (and poverty is negatively correlated) to the degree of political, economic and religious freedom which exists in a society.
16 posted on 08/02/2010 3:35:05 PM PDT by Riodacat (Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." ‹(•¿•)›)
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Ping.


20 posted on 08/02/2010 3:42:38 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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This reminded me of something:

http://article.nationalreview.com/267356/in-defense-of-elitism/jonah-goldberg

About a decade ago, one of the Smithsonian museums here in Washington had an exhibit on the history of human civilization, or something along those lines. I didn't see it, but a friend of mine went and his description always stuck with me. One of the displays was a comparative timeline of different cultures. At, say, 1250 you'd see what the British, the Japanese, the Chinese, or the Arabs had come up with. The sight that really struck home for my friend was a beautiful Renaissance Italian clock, with movable gears and a stunning hand-painted face with a sun and moon alternating for AM and PM. The clock came from the 15th or 16th century, I think. But that's not really important. On the same timeline for African culture there was a wood mask with eye- and mouth-holes cut out in some "novel" way. The little explanatory card on the wall tried to make it sound, somehow, as though the handcrafted clock and the mask were similarly impressive accomplishments. To which my friend responded, roughly, "Are you high?"

I may have gotten the details a bit off here, but the substance is obviously true. Some things are better than other things. Some cultures are better than other cultures. Some things are more worth studying, celebrating, and emulating than other things. Or as the late William Henry III put it in his wonderful book, In Defense of Elitism, "It is scarcely the same thing to put a man on the moon as to put a bone in your nose."


23 posted on 08/02/2010 4:16:25 PM PDT by jdege
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Maybe it takes a lot more brains to survive in Norway than in a warm place.

The dumb ones were all eaten by reindeer.

26 posted on 08/02/2010 4:24:19 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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Need to see the R-squared but it looks like a fairly strong correlation...


32 posted on 08/02/2010 6:08:36 PM PDT by APatientMan
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Thanks reaganaut1.

It really is rooted in classical civilization -- which is why the leftwads work so hard to bash the products of classical civilization.

Having a history of building nation-states (generally not by holding a summit meeting and reaching a consensus) with a central authority (of various kinds) and ensuring a uniform legal code (of various kinds), domestic tranquility (of various kinds), and -- going back to the great riverine civs of very ancient times -- huge food surpluses, has been the path from way way back beyond the beginning of known literacy to right now.

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39 posted on 08/03/2010 5:31:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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There are lots of things that make up a flowering civilization including climaate which implicates food availability.

However, if I were to put money on any one thing that gave Western civilization a booster shot, it would be the invention of movable and standardized type.

The expansion of information and general knowledge that came with the ever increasing ability of the average man to obtain cheaper and cheaper books gave the West the advantage of multiplying the numbers of educated people who COULD do things like invent steam engines.

Watt didn’t start with an idea of a steam engine from scratch (eg. Newton’s legendary apple falling from a tree) but he had a whole conrnucopia of knowledge of various kinds of mechanical devices and physics that he could put together into a successful invention.

In a 1000 years people will look back on the next big thing that moved civilization as the computer invented by IBM, Jobs, and Gates and the internet invented by Al Gore on an unseasonably cool day.


57 posted on 08/04/2010 9:54:22 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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