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Now we know where all the new doctors are going to come from: those who don't have hard science and math skills, but take sociology and feminist studies and history of motion pictures, etc. God help us.
1 posted on 07/30/2010 5:06:31 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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Among the current crop is Ms. Adler, 21, a senior at Brown studying global political economy and majoring in development studies.

Ms. Adler said she was inspired by her freshman study abroad in Africa. “I didn’t want to waste a class on physics, or waste a class on orgo,” she said. “The social determinants of health are so much more pervasive than the immediate biology of it.”

She added that her parents, however, were “thrilled when I decided to go the M.D. route, because they were worried about my job security.”

2 posted on 07/30/2010 5:09:21 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Stripping motivated people of their dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea.")
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somewhat more likely — though less so than Dr. Kase had expected — to go into primary care fields, like pediatrics and obstetrics and gynecology (49 percent compared with 39 percent).

Meh. Womyn's studies graduates are good enough for treating womyn. < /sarc>

3 posted on 07/30/2010 5:10:18 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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Why on Earth would anyone want MORE psychiatrists?


4 posted on 07/30/2010 5:10:22 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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If you apply yourself, those kind of tests aren’t really very hard. Studying for them is just the same as working a 40 hr a week job.

I wouldn’t want a doctor who couldn’t do them.


5 posted on 07/30/2010 5:10:57 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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I guess if my current doctor dies I’ll start taking care of myself. I’ve actually studied physics, biology and organic chemistry.


6 posted on 07/30/2010 5:11:22 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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So my veterinarian is better trained than these new doctors?!


7 posted on 07/30/2010 5:16:17 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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They never told us what sex most of these students are.


8 posted on 07/30/2010 5:16:21 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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“So it came as a total shock to Elizabeth Adler when she discovered, through a singer in her favorite a cappella group at Brown University, that one of the nation’s top medical schools admits a small number of students every year who have skipped all three requirements.”

How nice for them. You just don’t want them around when your appendix starts to swell or your tonsils turn red.


12 posted on 07/30/2010 5:18:55 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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The social determinants of health are so much more pervasive than the immediate biology of it.”

What a crock of crap. And yet, Brown University is accepting her in to their medical school.

The operation of that university has apparently been 100% turned over to self-righteous, elitist social engineers. As far as I am concerned, Brown University has lost every shred of its academic integrity.

What a shame. It used to be a great school.

13 posted on 07/30/2010 5:19:44 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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One obvious question would be: how do these doctors do in practice vs. their peers? The truth is that, in many professions, you learn much more than you need to actually do the job effectively. Part of the rationale is that you use it to insure that the people who get though the program are of higher quality. In many cases, however, this argument rings hollow.

In the military, I was treated by many people who (I assumed) were full fledged physicians but turned out to be physicians assistants. At the time, I didn’t detect any real difference and they treated me just fine.


14 posted on 07/30/2010 5:21:35 AM PDT by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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So they get into Med School, big deal. They will be crushed on their first round of USMLE’s and wash out in a year.

Which would be why Mt. Sinai declined to say how these non-traditionals are doing 5-10 years down the road.

This is a play for money and publicity by Mt. Sinai. If anything, the competition for med school has gotten more fierce and more aggressive rather than less.


19 posted on 07/30/2010 5:24:06 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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If the MD is from Brown you don’t want ‘em around!


20 posted on 07/30/2010 5:25:09 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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So a white male engineer with a 3.0 average cannot go to med school but a female humanities major can? WTF?


22 posted on 07/30/2010 5:26:40 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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"We are DEVO!"

24 posted on 07/30/2010 5:28:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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...notice the language in some of the quotes....words like “excludes,diminishes,obstacle,barriers,social determinants”

....this is the language of liberal social engineering....personally, I want the best doctor that can save my life...not one who broke down ‘barriers’


25 posted on 07/30/2010 5:29:28 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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Organic chemistry and a blue-eyed blond with an hourglass figure pretty much doomed my initial college career in 1968.

Oh, well. It was time to go overseas and kill communists anyway.


26 posted on 07/30/2010 5:29:33 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (All sweat, no equity)
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They should have a notice affixed to their medical license that they are only qualified to treat liberals.


30 posted on 07/30/2010 5:32:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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The study found that, by some measures, the humanities students made more sensitive doctors:

I DO NOT WANT A MORE "SENSITIVE" DOCTOR!!!!

I WANT ONE THAT CAN READ THE DAMNED METABOLIC PATHWAYS CHART, AND READ PRESCRIBING INFORMATION, AND OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT KILL ME..

This is bullshit.

31 posted on 07/30/2010 5:34:07 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (CNN:AP:etc:Today, President Obama's stool was firm and well-formed. One end was slightly pointed. ")
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“There’s no question,” Dr. Kase said. “The default pathway is: Well, how did they do on the MCAT? How did they do on organic chemistry? What was their grade-point average?”
“That excludes a lot of kids,”.

Yeah, the stupid ones.

They are doing to med school admissions what they did to the SAT. Certain groups don’t do well on the tests so the tests have to be eliminated.


32 posted on 07/30/2010 5:34:34 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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I didn’t read the article because it’s the NY SLIMES but does it mention the eventual grad rates of those small few who are accepted with out ANY core science classes? I find it hard to believe that those who never took chemistry/biocchem would make it through med school unless med school is also letting them forgo some med classes as well! And no wonder they go into psychiatry.


33 posted on 07/30/2010 5:35:54 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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