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Clintonites Undermine Obama for Hillary 2012 Challenge
Human Events ^ | July 26, 2010 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 07/26/2010 12:45:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

For pundits looking for signs that Hillary Clinton is thinking—just thinking—of perhaps challenging President Obama in 2012, there are suddenly plenty of tea leaves to be read.

Former aides to Bill Clinton are popping up in news stories criticizing the President's performance and making dour predictions about the Democratic Party.

Why else are Clinton loyalists joining the fray other than to soften up Obama for a Hillary left-cross come, say, the summer of 2011, when she cites high unemployment and a country in malaise in deciding to run for President again?

The biggest jolt from the Clinton camp came compliments of Stan Greenberg, who used to poll for President Clinton, and James Carville, the campaign consultant who got him elected.

Their firm, Democracy Corps, put out a new poll that showed Republicans leading Democrats 48%-42% in the race to control the House of Representatives. It showed Democrats trailing Republicans on almost all economic issues. It showed Obama with the sinking job-approval number of 45%. Voters think, by big majorities, he is a big spender and too liberal.

A number of polls have shown similar numbers.

But then came clincher—the poisonous "S" word—the word even Republicans do not dare utter for fear of raising the wrath of the New York Times and Washington Post.

The two former Clinton aides asked respondents if the word "Socialist" describes Obama very well or well. Answer: 55% said yes.

Republicans, you have your gift. A good majority of Americans think the President is a Socialist. Feel free to use the adjective yourselves, compliments of two Democratic operatives who used to work for the Clintons.

Carville and Greenberg are not alone.

In a Financial Times article headlined "Obama faces growing credibility crisis," no fewer than two ex-Clinton aides help back up the headline.

“If you ask me where the silver lining is for President Obama, I have to say I cannot see one,” Bill Galston, a former Clinton official, tells the Times. “Just as BP’s failure to cap the well has been so damaging, Obama’s failure to cap unemployment will be his undoing. There is nothing he can do to affect the jobless rate before November.”

And this:

“The bottom line here is that Americans don’t believe in President Obama’s leadership,” says Rob Shapiro, another former Clinton official, in the Times story. “He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence and, short of a 9/11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can’t think of how he could do that.”

Got it? Clinton loyalists are telling reporters Obama is a Socialist in the eyes of Americans and he is powerless to turn things around.

The President has plenty of critics for his handling of the BP oil gusher. But it is noteworthy that former Clinton people are as nasty as the rest.

"President Obama's address to the nation from the Oval Office was, to be frank, vapid," blogged former Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich on Salon.com. "If you watched with the sound off, you might have thought he was giving a lecture on the history of the Interstate Highway System. He didn't have to be angry but he had at least to show passion and conviction. It is, after all, the worst environmental crisis in the history of the nation."

Carville is perhaps the most outspoken Obama oil-spill critic on TV. On CNN and ABC, he has painted the President as inept, not wanting to be bothered by an environmental disaster so he left the fix up to BP.

"The political stupidity of this is just unbelievable," Carville said. "The President of the United States could have come down here. He could have been involved with the families of these 11 people [killed in explosion]. He could have demanded a plan in anticipation of this. He just looks like he's not involved in this. You've got to get down here and take control of this. Put somebody in charge of this and get this thing moving. We're about to die down here."

It would be naive to think that the 2008 bitter Obama-Clinton primary battles, ones that had her red-faced husband lecturing reporters, have not left sour feelings. Obama dealt with it by bringing her onboard. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

Recently, pundits have noted some daylight between the President and the secretary. She talked in an interview of the importance of good fiscal policy to keep America strong—a perceived shot at the President and the burgeoning debt. While the White House sniped at Gen. Stanley McChrystal in Afghanistan, the secretary of State stood by him.

While Clintonites pile on Obama, the President keeps trying to keep them close. He just named Jacob Lew, a former Clinton aide who went with Hillary to the State Department, as his new budget director. The White House called in an aide to the former President recently to discuss his 2010 campaign schedule.

There was a good reason. Clinton had just endorsed a Democrat for the U.S. Senate from Colorado. It was not the man Obama wanted.

Former Clinton adviser turned Hillary-watcher Dick Morris said on Fox News that Hillary still wants the presidency more than anything else in the world.

Morris wrote in June, "As always with the Clintons, the signs are made evident by a carefully choreographed two-step in which they fill their separate roles, one as an outsider and the other as a loyal insider with the Obama Administration. But never doubt that everything these two do is coordinated and orchestrated."

Mark Larson, a popular conservative talk show host in San Diego, has been watching the Clintons for years.

"I think she knows very well what is happening and could happen," he told HUMAN EVENTS. " Still being the 'good soldier' as secretary of State, but she has to know that if Obama continues down this disaster path that even her biggest detractors would welcome her back, giving fresh consideration to a candidacy. So much of what conservatives feared about Clinton is nothing in comparison to the actions, behavior and spin in this administration."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010; 2012; bho44; clintonistas; democrats; fail; gulf; hillary; hillary2012; obama; oil; oilspill; palin; polls
I love me a snake fight! Grab some popcorn and an adult beverage and sit on down!
1 posted on 07/26/2010 12:45:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I still do not see her running without a removal of BO that could not be attributable to her. No Democrat candidate can win without a massive black block vote, which would be forfeit if he is defeated in a primary.

Nor do I see him stepping aside for another candidate. He is too small for such a gesture.


2 posted on 07/26/2010 12:48:52 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (The bureaucrat is the natural enemy of liberty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Hillary still wants the presidency more than anything else in the world. “

Yet she probably could have taken down Zero if she used some of the secret files from the FBI? Why didn’t she?

Seems like she laid down and just enjoyed being raped. Typical whore, aka DemonRat.


3 posted on 07/26/2010 1:10:39 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Carter had Teddy Kennedy too...

Oh, if history would just repeat - complete with a new Reagan.


4 posted on 07/26/2010 1:42:20 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Eagles2003
Yet she probably could have taken down Zero if she used some of the secret files from the FBI? Why didn’t she?

Because they snatched those FBI files back in the early 90s when Obama was some nameless street organizer, that's why. There probably was no file on him.

And I doubt they concentrated much opposition research on their own party. They were more interested in dirt on Newt, Delay, Hyde, Dole, etc.

5 posted on 07/26/2010 1:46:45 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: OrangeHoof
Welcome Back, Dad

I've been trying to convince my fellow conservatives that they have been wasting their time in a fruitless quest for a new Ronald Reagan to emerge and lead our party and our nation. I insisted that we'd never see his like again because he was one of a kind. I was wrong! Wednesday night I watched the Republican National Convention on television and there, before my very eyes, I saw my Dad reborn; only this time he's a she. And what a she! This was Ronald Reagan at his best -- the same Ronald Reagan who made the address known now solely as "The Speech," which during the Goldwater campaign set the tone and the agenda for the rebirth of the traditional conservative movement that later sent him to the White House for eight years and revived the moribund GOP. Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time around.

~Michael Reagan, radio talk show host and son of President Ronald Reagan

6 posted on 07/26/2010 1:49:44 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Soapbox & Ballot Box or Ammo Box.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know if you’re who you say you are, but I couldn’t agree more with what you are saying. Sarah is “The One,” and as time goes on, more and more people will allow themselves to feel that way. Right now, they’re afraid to.

We need to teach them to stop feeling that way.


7 posted on 07/26/2010 1:53:44 AM PDT by ObamaMustGo2012 (Obama Must Go In 2012)
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To: ObamaMustGo2012

I’m NOT Michael Reagan, if that’s what you mean. I was just quoting him. I did work for President Reagan, so I see the truth in Michael’s statement, but I’m just a peon, same as most of us here.


8 posted on 07/26/2010 1:56:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Soapbox & Ballot Box or Ammo Box.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Crats can not win without the socialist blacks. That is why they are stirring up the race card. Beating the the drums and getting them excited to vote against whitey. Black voters remind me of the OJ jury.


9 posted on 07/26/2010 2:42:38 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She would have to resign her post at some point in the next nine months or so to run. I don’t see Obama firing her because he needs her voters to win. Hes in a difficult spot with regards to Hillary which is nice to see.
Just musing but if she runs and is the candidate she loses a chunk of his base. If she runs and he wins the nomination whatever support he retains from the center will be greatly diminished.
I know many of us were looking for that sort of effect last go around but we had too many things working against us the greatest being Bush. In retrospect he has to look better in light of what this socialist has wroth.


10 posted on 07/26/2010 2:43:18 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just wait for Hill to find some policy disagreement to distance and divorce herself from the marxist “magic negro”
Then as his numbeers continue to tank she’ll step in to “save” the party from a humiliating defeat in 2012 after the ass kicking the dems will get in 2010.
Blacks will simply not come out and vote if they dump this unAmerican cancer, obamma.


11 posted on 07/26/2010 2:56:33 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Ya unAmerican p.o.s.)
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To: wiggen
Just musing but if she runs and is the candidate she loses a chunk of his base.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I find it interesting that the Globe is printing these stories about Obama’s eligibility. Hm?

12 posted on 07/26/2010 2:57:29 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Psalm 144

Not only that, she had years to amass a campaign warchest and she nearly went bankrupt during her lastbid...didn’t Obama pay off her campaign bills? Several of her bundlers have been dismantled and are in jail. She’d have to do some serious fundraising between now and then...who would back her/fund this? Soros? THe Chinese?

And another point in the article...just WHEN did hse state she backed McChrystal? And her smug statement to Daniel Petraus..”willing suspension of disbelief”. She called him a liar...and now she wants tobe his commander-in-chief?

Lots to throw rocks at...but I don’t put anything past the CLintons......


13 posted on 07/26/2010 3:19:57 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I noted that you are seeing polls pop up showing Zero losing to numerous GOP’ers. This is not for conservative consumption it's to scare Dims.
14 posted on 07/26/2010 4:02:36 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is such baloney. Hillary Clinton would have left the cabinet by now if that were in her plans.
She is too old to run again, credibly. She got beaten by Mr. Zero last time. Next time, he’s the frickin President, and any dirt she may have on him due to proximity, he’s got as much or more on her. Any unloading she does on him, he can drop a house on her.
It’s just not happening. Smart gamblers leave the table with modest winnings. She will leave it as a Sec of State when the voters take her boss out, or some other respectable reason like Bubba’s health or to fish with grandchildren and pen another lying memoir.
She will never run for president again. (Veep...maybe.)
Besides, 0bama has already achieved her evil dreams for America. It’s all over but the gun grabbing, as far as she can see.


15 posted on 07/26/2010 4:14:14 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (668, neighbor of the beast, is tagline enough)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had a dream just before I got up and came here, see I finally went and bought the Bluray version of “No Country for old Men” this last week, it was marked down to $10 at Walmart.

And the way that a convoluted dream interpretrs and then reading this post I get the impression that Obama will be traveling around with this compressed air cyling with the cow killing pneumatic stud. Or with the silenced shotgun.

And this nearly unstoppable killing machine will never stop no matter how much he is injured, he will keep on hunting for Hilary.

Now why would he hunt Hilary? Because Hilary has the secrets, Hilary is also a hunter of a sorts. Its who will be the one that makes the most mistakes that will die.


16 posted on 07/26/2010 4:26:47 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had a dream just before I got up and came here, see I finally went and bought the Bluray version of “No Country for old Men” this last week, it was marked down to $10 at Walmart.

And the way that a convoluted dream interprets and then reading this post I get the impression that Obama will be traveling around with this compressed air cylinder with the cow killing pneumatic stud. Or with the silenced shotgun.

And this nearly unstoppable killing machine will never stop no matter how much he is injured, he will keep on hunting for Hilary.

Now why would he hunt Hilary? Because Hilary has the secrets, Hilary is also a hunter of a sorts. Its who will be the one that makes the most mistakes that will die.

spell checking...


17 posted on 07/26/2010 4:27:41 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The hillary who went along with releasing the Pan Am bomber on ‘compassionate grounds’

That’s their gal.


18 posted on 07/26/2010 4:33:00 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Psalm 144

Can you say Arkencide?


19 posted on 07/26/2010 4:35:28 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: screaminsunshine
"Crats cannot win without the socialist blacks. That is why they are stirring up the race card."

You're correct, but that move is going to backfire on them. My belief is that the populace is onto that scheme and sick and tired of that crap and will use it as a reason to defeat them. The race card has been over played to their detriment!

20 posted on 07/26/2010 5:10:30 AM PDT by Old Badger (boy do opportunities abound everywhere for Real Conservatives!)
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To: Psalm 144

“Nor do I see him stepping aside for another candidate. He is too small for such a gesture.”

I can see him not running in 2012. He would go to Soros’ house and there would be a large “Mission Accomplished” sign at the entranceway.


21 posted on 07/26/2010 5:20:52 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Helter Skelter. The Revolution is Upon Us.)
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To: Eagles2003

When she pilfered the FBI files Obama was still a punk back-bencher in the Illinois legislature. He was an unknown on not on any prominent D.C. radar. His file was of little interest or import to the Clinton machine at that time.


22 posted on 07/26/2010 5:58:55 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Enjoy nature - eat meat, wear fur and drive your car!)
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To: Eye of Unk

I just may take “The Cow-Killing Pneumatic Stud” as a nickname.

Has a certain ring of smoldering gravitas to it, no?


23 posted on 07/26/2010 6:11:58 AM PDT by Humble Servant ( See y'all in the gulag.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I seriously have to ask, what could voters believe they could gain by voting against obama in favor of obama-light (skinned).


24 posted on 07/26/2010 6:21:34 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't think 0 will run again anyways. Hillary should be very pleased that she got her health care wish and now she can just slide right into the oval orifice. I truly believe it's all orchestrated by rats.
25 posted on 07/26/2010 6:48:34 AM PDT by hope
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To: Psalm 144

rarely do you see blacks vote at less than 90% for RATS.
You are probablt right, that they wouldn’t turn out in the numbers that they did in 2008.

With the electoral process, I don’t think blacks can decide a national election.
of the 131 million who voted in 2008, approx 15.8 million or 12.1% were black.

It seems to me, at least for now, it always will boil down to which way whites vote.


26 posted on 07/26/2010 7:13:19 AM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: wintertime

Boston Globe? Not sure i saw them.


27 posted on 07/26/2010 10:37:00 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is just dumb.

Quote from article: "Why else are Clinton loyalists joining the fray other than to soften up Obama for a Hillary left-cross come, say, the summer of 2011, when she cites high unemployment and a country in malaise in deciding to run for President again?"
Why else??? Maybe because Obowma is doing such a lousy job, is so incompetent, so over his head, no one, not even democRATS want to be associated with this train wreck. Hell, Hillary doesn't need any of the usual suspects scheming and plotting to make Obowma look bad...he's doing it for them!!

28 posted on 07/26/2010 10:47:41 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse ("It is terrible to contemplete how few politicians are hanged." - G.K. Chesterton, 1921)
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