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U.S. Rep. Dave Camp: Americans being forced out of health plans because of ObamaCare (Deception?)
Our Midland ^ | 7/18/10 | U.S. Rep. Dave Camp

Posted on 07/18/2010 3:51:51 PM PDT by Libloather

Camp: Americans being forced out of health plans because of ObamaCare
By U.S. Rep. Dave Camp
Updated: 8:41 am, Sun Jul 18, 2010

President Obama and the Democrats repeatedly told Americans that if they liked the health plan they have, they can keep it. Sounds good. Too bad it's not true.

As a result of the Democrats' health care law, residents in Virginia have already lost access to one health care plan and now many residents in Maine could lose theirs as well. If this trend continues, millions of Americans will lose their health plan -- something nonpartisan experts repeatedly warned would happen under the law and that the Obama Administration itself has since confirmed.

Regulations Threaten Coverage for Maine Residents

Maine's Superintendent of Insurance has written HHS Secretary Sebelius requesting a waiver from Medical Loss Ratio (MLR) requirements on the basis that complying with the Democrats' new health law "may disrupt our individual health insurance market."

What does "disrupt" mean? It means that one of the two private insurers in Maine's individual market, for those who do not receive health insurance from their employer, will no longer offer coverage if forced to comply with the new law. It means the new MLR requirements could eliminate the current coverage of one-third of all privately insured Maine residents who purchase health insurance on their own. For Maine residents, the fallout of the new law will leave only one private insurer and one government insurer in the individual market. So much for giving Americans more choices and power over their health care.

(Excerpt) Read more at ourmidland.com ...


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KEYWORDS: americans; healthcare; obamacare; plans
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Obama's 'Keep Your Health Plan' Deception
Jennifer Rubin, Commentary
June 27, 2010

Over the last year or so, Obama has repeated dozens — perhaps hundreds — of times that his health-care ”reform” would allow you to keep your existing insurance plan. It’s quite apparent now that this was false. Time magazine is the latest to report:

Now that regulations about existing employer-sponsored plans have been issued, it’s becoming clear that many of the 160 million Americans with job-based coverage will not, in fact, be able to keep what they currently have.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2010/06/27/obama039s_039keep_your_health_plan039_deception_236621.html

1 posted on 07/18/2010 3:52:00 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

The bill was one big lie from the start...


2 posted on 07/18/2010 4:00:33 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Libloather

seething anger...


3 posted on 07/18/2010 4:01:18 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Atom Smasher

“Big Lie,” you say, the American people have been suckers for that for three generations now. And I don’t think they are suddenly going to start learning.


4 posted on 07/18/2010 4:05:12 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: Principled

I’d think that the worst is yet to come...


5 posted on 07/18/2010 4:05:49 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Libloather

Ironically, in their craftiness, the leftist Democrats may have effectively ended socialized medicine in America for many years.

Part and parcel to Obamacare was that it destroy Medicare and Medicaid, to force people in those systems into Obamacare. And it is doing so—destroying both systems.

However, though Obamacare cannot be eliminated, even if Republicans win control of both houses of congress, the Supreme Court *can* decide to throw it out. The WHOLE thing.

And that would mean NO government medicine for most people, with only the Indian Health Service and the Veterans Administration left.

For the most part, medicine in the US would be mostly privatized, except for State programs, which are mostly disasters anyway.


6 posted on 07/18/2010 4:10:36 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Libloather

It is designed to destroy private health insurance and usher in single payer/socialized medicine.

The sooner the thick ones among us understand this the sooner we can get around to fighting it.

It WILL hurt your family eventually. For some it will kill you or someone/some in your family.

If you have been to the DMV then you have a basic understanding of what getting medical help is going to be like under the thumb of politicians.

I’m telling you, folks, this is going to be a total nightmare.

But the worst part won’t be the rationing and mediocre care. The worst part of this is what it will do to young people and future generations. They will grow up with the government “taking care” of their bodies. They will have no concept of real freedom—they will never know it.

This will open the door for everything the socialist/communist dreams about. The US will no longer exist as a free country—it will be lost, likely forever.

For the young and future generations a day won’t go by that they won’t have to worry about what the US government will do for them, against them, or to them.

Once this is in place, well...checkmate.


7 posted on 07/18/2010 4:12:36 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: Libloather

File this under the category of:

DUH!!!!


8 posted on 07/18/2010 4:13:11 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: Libloather

You CAN”T keep your health plan if your company decides to dump it, unless you want to go to private pay, which will cost you a FORTUNE...the health companies will not be able to offer you the type of health insurance mandated at almost any cost...therefore, you are forced into the “Public Option” (known everywhere else on the planet as socialized medicine) so you can kiss the idea of private health insurance good-bye because only the super rich will can afford it and most of them self-insure anyway.

What a scam.


9 posted on 07/18/2010 4:15:51 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Conservatism is the antidote to tyranny...its principles are the founding principles." - LevinHey,)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
...Obamacare cannot be eliminated, even if Republicans win control of both houses of congress,...

Sure it can. It can be defunded with a simple house majority. It can be repealed with a simple majority in both houses. To override a veto it will be harder still - but it can be eliminated.

10 posted on 07/18/2010 4:17:24 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Libloather
End of the article, outta the park home run:
So, despite the Democrats' rhetoric, the reality is:

* Even the Departments of Health and Human Services, Treasury and Labor now concede you can't keep the insurance you have and like if you receive insurance from your employer.

* You can't keep the insurance you have and like if you are a senior.

* And now we learn, you can't keep the insurance you have and like even if you purchased it on your own.

I really hope some ballsey reporter will nail nobama to the wall on this. Yeah, I know...
11 posted on 07/18/2010 4:18:52 PM PDT by upchuck (Our margin of victory this November MUST BE greater than their margin of fraud.)
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To: upchuck; Boucheau
I really hope some ballsey reporter will nail nobama to the wall on this.

Like Boucheau posted above, the harm from this will hit many people or their loved ones directly. The leftist dopes in the media will not be exempt. Does their love for progressivism exceed that of their loved ones? We'll see.

Boucheau was right...this is going to cause so much unnecessary death and suffering. Personally, without getting into much detail, I see my life ending 20 years sooner under Obamacare. With all the cost/benefit stuff already appearing (BMI index), I can either put money aside for private or black market care or await the tender mercies of the HHS death panels.

If only I was an illegal alien. I'd have it made!
12 posted on 07/18/2010 4:41:25 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving.)
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To: Deagle

“I’d think that the worst is yet to come...”

############

If we can’t get the bill de-funded or repealed with the new pubbies being voted in, I’m afraid you’re absolutely right...the worst is yet to come.


13 posted on 07/18/2010 4:46:06 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Theodore R.
the American people have been suckers for that for three generations now. And I don’t think they are suddenly going to start learning.

Yup. To many Americans are useless idiots.

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14 posted on 07/18/2010 4:47:29 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64

Well stated Cobra! LOL!


15 posted on 07/18/2010 4:49:48 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher

Yes... I did not say that with any pride... Bad things are coming our way...


16 posted on 07/18/2010 4:51:01 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Agreed...sadly.


17 posted on 07/18/2010 4:52:34 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Libloather

I’m SHOCKED. I can’t believe Obama lied to us. And Nancy and Harry, too. Shocked, I tell you.


18 posted on 07/18/2010 4:54:29 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Atom Smasher
Thanks.

Feel free to copy that and send it out. I captioned the sources beneath the quotes for people to verify if they want to.

19 posted on 07/18/2010 5:02:24 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Principled
The fundamental flaw in Socialized Medicine in any marginally democratically ruled nation is that a simple majority vote in a legislative body is sufficient to eliminate the "medical care" option.

Folks could wake up some morning without any medical care even available ~ just like it'd never existed.

By keeping medical care predominantly private, the risk of a single vote wiping it out is dramatically reduced.

20 posted on 07/18/2010 5:08:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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