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Iraqis prefer AK-47 over M-16 for performance in desert heat
World Tribune ^ | 7/9/2010 | World Tribune

Posted on 07/11/2010 1:30:09 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

The U.S. military has supplied about 10,000 M-16s to the Iraq Army. But officials acknowledged that the Iraqis have decided to maintain the AK-47 as the lead assault rifle.The Iraq Army has determined that the M-16 was more accurate than the Kalashnikov. But officials said the Army concluded that the AK-47 was more reliable in the searing Iraqi summers. U.S. Army advisers have completed a course on the M-16 assault rifle for Iraqi soldiers at Camp Taji. The two-week course, which took place in mid-June, was meant to help the Iraq Army introduce the M-16 and, in some units, replace the Soviet-origin AK-47 Kalashnikov assault rifle. "For their first time, they shot very well — even compared to some U.S. soldiers," Sgt. Kevin Averre, in charge of the training, said. Officials said the U.S. military has imposed restrictions on the use of the M-16 to the Iraq Army. They said the Iraqis were required to register each M-16 to ensure that they are not sold or given to Al Qaida or other insurgency groups.

The U.S. Army, amid an accelerated troop withdrawal, has maintained its assault rifle training course in Iraq.

"Many Iraqi soldiers on Camp Taji do not use M-16s, and as the weapons continue to arrive, U.S. units will remain actively engaged in the training of the Iraqi Army," the U.S. Army said on June 21

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KEYWORDS: 556mm; 762mm; ak47; banglist; iraqiarmy; m16; obamasfault; rifle; treason
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1 posted on 07/11/2010 1:30:12 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove
Officials said the U.S. military has imposed restrictions on the use of the M-16 to the Iraq Army. They said the Iraqis were required to register each M-16 to ensure that they are not sold or given to Al Qaida or other insurgency groups.

That explains everything.


2 posted on 07/11/2010 3:16:40 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I could help find a home for those unloved M-16s.......


3 posted on 07/11/2010 3:20:31 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The AK-47 is a low maintenance relationship. The M-16 is a fussier mistress.


4 posted on 07/11/2010 3:33:35 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Iraqis prefer AK-47 over M-16 for performance in desert heat


"Do I really have to say it?"

'Series' for people who don't know what a TOILET is, expecting them to maintain the finicky M-16 in tip-top shape is a bit of a stretch. They'd have to clean heir weapon more than they clean themselves.

Will someone please buy 'the military' a clue.

I prefer the AK myself, it's like Superman, indestructible. (impervious to the elements)

5 posted on 07/11/2010 4:40:05 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

So I hope we take them back then than have 10,000 fresh M-16’s out there.


6 posted on 07/11/2010 4:55:11 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: sonofstrangelove

The AK is a good rifle in a lot of ways. Simple, easy to maintain, capable of being used even by the dimmest specimen of humanity. And it is durable.


7 posted on 07/11/2010 4:56:54 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: sonofstrangelove
But officials acknowledged that the Iraqis have decided to maintain the AK-47 as the lead assault rifle.

You're all missing it. The Iraqis believe that Obama will cut and run as soon as possible and there they'll be standing there among a thousand Muslim terrorist holding an American M-16.

8 posted on 07/11/2010 5:04:29 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: libertylover

“The AK 47 is the weapon of choice among our enemies and has a distinctive sound” Gunny Hightower


9 posted on 07/11/2010 5:06:52 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Add to the above, the AK is FAR less expensive to purchase and maintain. The M16 might be a decent weapon, but it isn’t the “be-all, end-all”.


10 posted on 07/11/2010 5:44:02 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: bert

That’s Gunny Highway. Just watched it last night.

Keep your powder dry.


11 posted on 07/11/2010 5:51:34 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: sonofstrangelove

I am recalling the first complaints about the M16 from our boys in Viet Nam - that is when they started to chrome the chambers. Why dont we have an american version of the FN?

Accurate and mud proof.


12 posted on 07/11/2010 6:01:47 AM PDT by kingcoal
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To: DownInFlames

Me too. you would think I could remember for 12 hours...... bad sign

especially after seeing it many times


13 posted on 07/11/2010 6:07:46 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: Condor51

...Exactly!...I just finished reading Rory Stewart’s “The Places in Between” about his walk across Afganistan...those tribal people are so backward they wipe their ass with their hand...the M-16 is not a rifle for mud people.


14 posted on 07/11/2010 7:07:05 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: sonofstrangelove
The AK-47’s 7.62 round is better than the M-16’s 5.56 in the longer engagements of a desert environment shootout.
15 posted on 07/11/2010 8:34:01 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Hand out pocket Constitutions to everyone you can")
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To: kingcoal
Why dont we have an american version of the FN?

1. Who wants to put the money in developing something they can't sell to the public.
2.We don't have an industrial infrastructure anymore.

17 posted on 07/11/2010 11:27:48 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
Why dont we have an american version of the FN?

We do in both inch and metric patterns:

DS Arms.

L

18 posted on 07/11/2010 11:32:18 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: DownInFlames; bert; libertylover
“The AK 47 is the weapon of choice among our enemies and has a distinctive sound” Gunny Hightower

*****

That’s Gunny Highway. Just watched it last night.

Keep your powder dry.

*********************

That should be: This is the AK-47 assault rifle, the preferred weapon of your enemy; and it makes a distinctive sound when fired at you, so remember it.

You men do not impress me.

19 posted on 07/11/2010 12:12:01 PM PDT by archy (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
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To: kingcoal
I am recalling the first complaints about the M16 from our boys in Viet Nam - that is when they started to chrome the chambers. Why dont we have an american version of the FN?

Accurate and mud proof.

Reasonably accurate for a service rifle, but heavy, almost 12 pounds loaded. And though reasonably reliable in mud, not as happy with sandyb conditions, as the Israeli troops who used the things from the 1950s until the mid-1970s found out. They called besom the broom, and though the Israelis adopted the *sand cuts* on the bolt and bolt carrier as used by the British on their L1A1 version, there was a lot more sand in their area of operations than those sand cuts could digest.

I like the FAL, don't misunderstand me. But I'd far rather carry the Rhodesiam R1 version than the T48.


20 posted on 07/11/2010 12:26:21 PM PDT by archy (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
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