Posted on 06/28/2010 8:06:31 AM PDT by IbJensen
when are the states and private businesses like hospitals going to turn around and sue the OPEC producing mexican govt for MEDCAID MEDICARE and otther expenses incurred to support MEXICAN citizens?
This situation will not reverse itself until D.C. is cleaned out.
I have no doubt the Arizona rancher will lose this lawsuit and likely his ranch as well as this has already happened once in the recent past.
Lawsuits can go two ways. AZ should sue Mexico for ENCOURAGING its citizens to sneak into the US. Remember the “comic book” they produced some years back showing the illegals how to sneak into the US and avoid immigration??
It appears that the POTUS is a rank racist. If you are white, you have no right!
Dead lawyers can’t sue
One Slice at a Time on Amnesty?
Center for immigration studies | June 10, 2010 | Mark Krikorian
FR Posted by AuntB
As the name suggests, supporters of comprehensive immigration reform have long resisted the mere suggestion that they should try a piecemeal approach and pursue smaller, less politically toxic amnesties. About a year ago, I was on a panel with Frank Sharry of Americas Voice, one of the chief pro-amnesty activists, and Esther Olavarria, the policy director for DHS who used to be Kennedys immigration person. In the flush of a new leftist, pro-amnesty administration, both were categorical that under no circumstances would there be a piecemeal approach to amnesty, insisting that everything would be folded into a comprehensive bill.
What a difference a year makes. Now, panicked that theyre going to get nothing at all, the pro-amnesty crowd is considering trying to move smaller, targeted amnesties, such as the Dream Act (for adults brought here illegally as children) and AgJobs (an amnesty and indentured-labor program for farmworkers). The first crack came late last year when the new head of MALDEF called for a piecemeal approach, mentioning not only the Dream Act and AgJobs but also spousal immigration rights for homosexuals and banning states from passing immigration-enforcement measures. A couple weeks ago, on another panel I was on, Sharry expressed openness to the piecemeal approach, and stories in The Hill and this Tucson paper suggest that support is growing among the amnesty folks (LULAC, for instance, is now in the piecemeal camp).
And the activists focused specifically on the Dream Act (usually illegal-alien college students whod benefit from it) have been getting increasingly strident in their criticisms of the D.C.-based comprehensive crowd. This is from one of their sites: From 2007, even before the CIR bill was introduced campaign officially kicked off, Dream youth were told to hold off on the DREAM Act. We were told, point blank, that if we advocated for the DREAM Act we would be killing a larger reform package. That by merely sharing our stories, we would be activating the anti-immigrant sentiment in the country and doing harm to everyone, including our parents.
We were shamed, called selfish, and ridiculed at every turn. But through it all we managed to pull through with an an amazing movement to boot. Where we were denied a seat at a table, we created our own table and, as youth, we reclaimed our own movement. We are no longer dependent on privileged, usually white, out-of-touch organizers to do our bidding or for that matter even speak for us. What does it tell you about yourmovement when the speakers dont even represent the issue at hand?! We can speak for ourselves.
(I especially like the part about privileged, usually white, out-of-touch organizers racial grievance even within the pro-amnesty movement!) The problem for the piecemeal crowd is that it might be too late even for small-ish immigration bills. If theyd moved forward with them in 2007, they might well have gotten them passed. If theyd moved forward with smaller bills last year, they might have gotten somewhere. But this fall, in a panic at the lack of progress on amnesty, to try to ram through some small amnesties as a way of placating their left wing? I dont see how that works.
The only piecemeal thing that might have a chance would be a modified version of the Dream Act that added two important elements: First, to ensure future kids wont find themselves in such a situation, mandate E-Verify for all new hires; and second, to ensure that no adult responsible for putting these kids in such a predicament could ever benefit, abolish all the family immigration categories except the one for spouses and minor children of citizens. Even I could vote for a bill like that.
Reconquista shock troops at Phoenix Capital protest, May 29, 2010.
Why didn't Calderon whine about that when he addressed Congress?
Guess he knew he would not get a standing ovation (/snix).
“I have no doubt the Arizona rancher will lose this lawsuit and likely his ranch as well as this has already happened once in the recent past.”
Absolutely correct (#2 REALLY pisses me off).
1. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=89295
2. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/19/national/19ranch.html
Just wondering (/snix): where do these "poverty-stricken" migrants doing cheap stoop labor get the thousands of dollars to buy new identities? Does the Mexican govt have a hidden agenda? Is the Mexican govt "helping" illegals get false ID's?
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REFERENCE Some bond sales are voted upon---by state ballot referenda. Mexico and these other groups may have led officials to mis-state the uses of tax-exempt bonds to voters. Moreover, if illegals voted on tax-exempt bond issues, that could negate the bond revenue and subject the illegals to prosecution
HERE'S WHAT TO DO (1) Investors in Arizona tax-exempt bonds may have been misled about the use of their investments. (2) MALDEF and other are thwarting laws and may have jeopardized investments in Arizona tax-exempt bonds
ACTION Do the research on timelines when Arizona legislators voted for the sale of billions of tax-exempt bonds to finance law enforcement, schools, highways, water facilities, municipal and county grants, etc, etc, etc. These bonds were then sold to tax-exempt investors.
MISLEADING BOND INVESTORS IS A SERIOUS CRIME Investors in Arizona tax-exempt bonds were clearly misled about the use of tax-exempt bond revenue. The SEC closely monitors tax-exempt bond sales. The SEC takes a dim view about misleading tax-exempt investors and the misuse of tax-exempt bond revenue. So does the IRS.
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HERE'S WHAT TO DO:
(1) Express your concerns about Arizona elected officials under oath like Grijalva and the aforementioned who challenge the will of the people----that wont enforce the new immigration law; this is a misappropriation of tax-exempt bond revenue.
EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov.
(2) Contact the IRS to report suspected tax fraud and tax law violations by officials using tax-exempt bond revenue in ways not disclosed to investors.
IRS TOLL-FREE Tel 1-800-829-0433 You may remain anonymous.
(3) Arizona elected officials under oath like Grijalva and the aforementioned officials who challenge the will of the people----that wont enforce new immigration law have co-opted investors in tax-exempt bonds; they should be reported for fiduciary negligence.
EMAIL askDOJ@USDOJ.gov
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Demand that banks holding Arizona tax-exempt bond revenue conduct an outside audit immediately and reveal their findings (or you will report banks to state and federal regulators).
Bond sales that were put to referendum could be subject to penalties, if voters were misled about the uses of bond revenue.
The Arizona Secy of State should be asked to release all official documents filed WRT tax-exempt bond issues.
I say pull out of Korea and Afghanistan NOW and put those troops on our borders. The more immediate need is to take back occupied American land and secure the Nation.
Why would Mexico have any standing to sue Arizona over a state law? Any judge in his right mind should toss this one out before it goes anywhere.
What you’re saying is that you support illegal alien women being able to sneak across our border and give birth here in the US thereby guaranteeing all US citizen rights to their anchor babies.
Sorry, but I can’t go along with that. The citizenship of both parents should determine whose birth rights gets passed along.
Most days, I consider you to be an intelligent gal. Today, I am thinking, “Lizzie has flipped her durn wig!”
My response:
1. This part of the continent does not belong to you. You’re most likely Aztec or Olmec, two tribes that had very limited presence in the current-day United States of America. In all likihood, the Aztecs, Olmecs and Mayan invasions were constantly harassing the Navajo, Malibu, and Cherokee tribes and used the above tribes as victims for their religious ceremonies.
2. Mexico is the last country to talk about racism and bigotry. Afro-Mexicans and Mexican Amerinds face a lot of discrimination in Mexican society. Even Mexicans with mixed Amerind and European ancestry discriminate against Amerinds. Mexico also has some pretty interesting immigration laws itself. Regardless of any charges of racism, the law applies to ALL illegal immigrants, be it Irish, Russian, Caribbean or even Canadian.
3. Sorry, your “Continent” (Rather, a rather large subsection of two continents known as ‘North America’ and ‘South America’ you artificially combine as one because of your inferiority complex to the USA) is already under vast European influence. You speak Spanish, your culture is Spanish and you repress any non-Spanish culture in your countries. Your presidents and prime ministers are all mostly Spanish. Last time I checked, Spain was a part of Europe.
Quit bitching, wait for your turn in the Green Card Lottery and gain a skill before you immigrate here like everybody else who immigrated here did before they came to this country.
Why would Mexico have any standing to sue Arizona over a state law? Any judge in his right mind should toss this one out before it goes anywhere.
I posted the comic book yesterday...Guide for the Mexican Migrant
Jury nullification is our friend. Just like OJ. This is the new era when the leftist weapons are all being used against them for the first time ever.
JURY NULLIFICATION!!
This lawsuit needs to be thrown out as frivilous!
Also, we need to countersue for al the money illegal immigrants have cost the USA.
I saw this posted somewhere:
“Perhaps the USA will take back the other half of Mexico that we won in the war 150 years ago.
We can strip it of its resources the way the USSR did to Eastern Europe after WWII. The difference between the USA and the USSR is that Mexico actually OWES us for all the social services that we have provided to their illegal alien invaders. Not to mention all the jobs stolen from American citizens. We can take the oil, the good farmland, the riches of Mexico City and return the nearly worthless parts back to them as a gesture of good will.
La Raza needs to know that even though we won ALL of Mexico as spoils of war, we actually paid for the US portion of “Aztlan”.
They should not remind us that, by rights, all of Mexico should belong to the US.”
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