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Gun Control and Mass Murders: Multiple-victim shootings are, fortunately, very rare, but when...
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | June 11, 2010 | John R. Lott Jr.

Posted on 06/11/2010 11:28:55 AM PDT by neverdem

Gun Control and Mass Murders

Multiple-victim shootings are, fortunately, very rare, but when they occur in the U.S. they skew the public’s perceptions about gun control.

 

It wasn’t supposed to happen in England, with its very strict gun-control laws. And yet last week, Derrick Bird shot twelve people to death and wounded eleven others in the northwestern county of Cumbria. A headline in the London Times read: “Toughest laws in the world could not stop Cumbria tragedy.” 
 
But surely this was an aberration. Because America has the most guns, multiple-victim public shootings are an American thing,
right? No, not at all. Contrary to public perception, Western Europe, most of whose countries have much tougher gun laws than the United States, has experienced many of the worst multiple-victim public shootings. Particularly telling, all the multiple-victim public shootings in Western Europe have occurred in places where civilians are not permitted to carry guns. The same is true in the United States: All the public shootings in which more than three people have been killed have occurred in places where civilians may not legally bring guns. 
 
Look at recent history. Where have the worst K–12 school shootings occurred? Nearly all of them in
Europe. The very worst one occurred in a high school in Erfurt, Germany, in 2002, where 18 were killed. The second-worst took place in Dunblane, Scotland, in 1996, where 16 kindergartners and their teacher were killed. The third-worst, with 15 dead, happened in Winnenden, Germany. The fourth-worst was in the U.S.Columbine High School in 1999, leaving 13 dead. The fifth-worst, with eleven murdered, occurred in Emsdetten, Germany
 
It may be a surprise to those who believe in gun control that
Germany was home to three of the five worst attacks. Though not quite as tight as the U.K.’s regulations, Germany’s gun-control laws are some of the most restrictive in Europe. German gun licenses are valid for only three years, and to obtain one, the person must demonstrate such hard-to-define characteristics as trustworthiness, and must also convince authorities that he needs a gun. This is on top of prohibitions on gun ownership for those with mental disorders, drug or alcohol addictions, violent or aggressive tendencies, or felony convictions. 
 
The phenomenon is not limited to school attacks. Multiple-victim public shootings in general appear to be at least as common in
Western Europe as they are here. The following is a partial list of attacks since 2001. As mentioned, all of them occurred in gun-free zones — places where guns in the hands of civilians are outlawed.  
 
Zug, Switzerland, Sept. 27, 2001: A man whose lawsuits had been denied murdered 14 members of a cantonal parliament. 
 
Tours, France, Oct. 29, 2001: Four people were killed and ten wounded when a French railway worker started shooting at a busy intersection.
 

Nanterre, France, March 27, 2002: A man killed eight city-council members after a council meeting. 

Erfurt, Germany, April 26, 2002: A former student killed 18 at a secondary school. 
 
Freising,
Germany, Feb. 19, 2002: Three people killed and one wounded. 
 
Turin, Italy, Oct. 15, 2002: Seven people killed on a hillside overlooking the city. 
 

Madrid, Spain, Oct. 1, 2006: A man killed two employees and wounded another at a company that had fired him. 
 
Emsdetten, Germany, Nov. 20, 2006: A former student murdered eleven people at a high school.

Tuusula, Finland, Nov. 7, 2007: Seven students and the principal killed at a high school. 
 
Naples, Italy, Sept. 18, 2008: Seven dead and two seriously wounded in a public meeting hall. (This incident is not included in the totals given below because it may have involved the Mafia.)
 
Kauhajoki, Finland, Sept. 23, 2008: Ten people shot to death at a college. 

Winnenden, Germany, March 11, 2009: A 17-year-old former student killed 15 people, including nine students and three teachers. 
 
Lyon, France, March 19, 2009: Ten people injured when a man opened fire on a nursery school. 
 
Athens, Greece, April 10, 2009: Three people killed and two injured by a student at a vocational college. 
 
Rotterdam, Netherlands, April 11, 2009: Three people killed and one injured at a crowded café. 
 
Vienna, Austria, May 24, 2009: One dead and 15 wounded in an attack on a Sikh temple

Espoo, Finland, Dec. 31, 2009: Four people shot to death at a mall. 
 
Cumbria, England, June 2, 2010: Twelve killed by a British taxi driver. 
 
So how does this compare with the
United States? Bill Landes at the University of Chicago and I have collected data on all the multiple-victim public shootings in the United States from 1977 to 1999 (for a discussion of that information, see the just-released updated third edition of More Guns, Less Crime). If one looks at just those cases where four or more people have been killed in an attack, on average 10.6 people died in such attacks each year; the worst attack was the Luby’s Cafeteria shooting in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, in which 23 people died.  
 
I don’t have exactly comparable data for Europe; however, the data I have been able to collect for the nine and a half years from 2001 through now indicate that on average some 12.5 people per year have died in such attacks. To be sure, Western Europe has a lower per capita rate, since its population over the last decade has been about 48 percent larger than the U.S. population over the earlier period (about 387 million to 262 million). Still, the fact that there are such attacks at all belies the conventional wisdom.  
 
Large multiple-victim public shootings are exceedingly rare events, but they garner massive news attention, and the misperceptions they produce are hard to erase. When I have been interviewed by foreign journalists, even German ones, they usually start off by asking why multiple-victim public shootings are such an American problem. And of course, they are astonished when I remind them of the attacks in their own countries and point out that this is not an American problem, it is a universal problem, but with a common factor: The attacks occur in public places where civilians are banned from carrying guns. 
 
John R. Lott Jr. is a FOXNews.com contributor, an economist, and the author of More Guns, Less Crime, the third edition of which has just been published by the
University of Chicago Press.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 06/11/2010 11:28:56 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
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2 posted on 06/11/2010 11:45:30 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem

Mass shootings in part can be blamed on gun control. I know you’re thinking “If someone had a gun he could have stopped it.”

I’m also thinking how gun control is always the first step in persecution, which in many cases has ended up with the government performing the mass shootings.


3 posted on 06/11/2010 11:50:14 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Joe Brower

The fact that the Left’s dystopian ideas don’t work never seems to deter them for trying them again.

The Left makes insanity seem normal.


4 posted on 06/11/2010 12:04:38 PM PDT by Voice of Reason88 (One man with a gun can control 100 without one-Vladimir Lenin (The Statist view on guns))
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To: Voice of Reason88

The Left is fully aware that prohibiting law-abiding citizens from arming themselves will increase their vulnerability. That’s what the Left wants.

People who are empowered to take care of themselves [financially or with respect to personal security] are not going to be beholden to benevolent tyranny are they?

The Left wants us to be ignorant, dependent and vulnerable.


5 posted on 06/11/2010 12:39:35 PM PDT by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: neverdem

Leftists should be very PROUD of themselves for creating hundreds of dead, law abiding citizens. After all, they DIED because they DID obey the leftist’s law!!!


6 posted on 06/11/2010 12:47:11 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: antiRepublicrat

I watched a video just the other day of a guy shooting his girlfriend and 3 other people ins a “gun free” restaurant in Miami.


7 posted on 06/11/2010 1:51:07 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: walford

Which is why it seems like you can vote them in, but a lot of the time you can’t vote them out.

Hence the value of the bill of rights – particularly the first and second amendments.


8 posted on 06/11/2010 2:05:03 PM PDT by Voice of Reason88 (One man with a gun can control 100 without one-Vladimir Lenin (The Statist view on guns))
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To: Voice of Reason88

“The Left makes insanity seem normal.”

The left makes immorality moral, and morality immoral. Homosexuallity is normal. Criticizing homosexuallity is immoral. One race’s comments racist, another’s actual racist comments politically correct. Endless list not included here.


9 posted on 06/12/2010 10:31:32 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (A "tea bagger"? Say it to my face. ><BCC>)
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To: walford
The Left wants us to be ignorant, dependent and vulnerable.

Worth repeating.

They've got our children by the neck between the media and government schools.

10 posted on 06/14/2010 10:02:11 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: GodGunsGuts
All the public shootings in which more than three people have been killed have occurred in places where civilians may not legally bring guns.

Ping

11 posted on 06/14/2010 10:54:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: neverdem

John R. Lott Jr. is a national treasure. Thanks for posting this, neverdem.


12 posted on 06/14/2010 10:55:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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