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1 posted on 06/10/2010 11:22:46 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

well they own us, so what the hell can you do about it.


2 posted on 06/10/2010 11:25:42 PM PDT by Tempest (I believe in the sanctity of life... As long as you can afford it.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Why is China so obsessed about that one little island?


3 posted on 06/10/2010 11:28:25 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

And the Chinese are projecting that military power with the money we send them by buying “stuff” made in China.


6 posted on 06/10/2010 11:36:34 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The general should be concerned about China. Here’s what I wrote a while back.

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Posted by Kevin OMalley to nickcarraway On News/Activism
01/12/2005 12:07:37 PM PST · 17 of 25
Here is my swag on what is going to happen in Taiwan, posted on an earlier thread,
“China Rapidly Modernizes for War With U.S.”.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285398/posts

1) The one-child policy has created a testosterone-rich generation the likes of which no one on earth has ever seen. China will have an entire army of what they call “little dictators” who have few prospects of finding women, and they will be very aggressively pushing their old-guard superiors for action on the Taiwan issue. The final straw will be that they’ll be promised wives when they invade Taiwan.

2) Their army is as much as 200 Million strong, which was the size predicted in Revelation in the Bible, called “The Kings of the East.” They can afford casualties in the range of 10 million, which is 5 times bigger than our army ever was. China has some unfinished business with Vietnam, having fought to a standoff in 1979. They might do a run through Vietnam first so that their troups are more battle-hardened and arrogant, knowing that the US didn’t exactly win there. The added bonus is they get one of the largest warm water ports in the world.

3) Taiwan has never declared independence. It’s not like the brave Estonians standing up to Russia when communism fell. They’re like an impudent child claiming to have sovereignty over China. Their fatal miscalculation is that they know they’ll need Americans to fight for them if they are in a war, but Americans will be reluctant to shed blood for an ally that didn’t have the courage to declare independence until they were invaded on an “internal dispute”. The chinese will hammer away at this in the press.

4) Chinese weapons policy has been to cycle through older generations of weaponry and stay about one generation behind the latest stuff. They sold their old silkworm missiles to the Iranians and used that money to upgrade their newer missiles, which are inferior to US missiles but they only need to be functional. The plan is to overwhelm defenses with superior numbers. No ship can stand up to 50 supersonic silkworm missiles aimed at it. They have similar tactics for other systems, such as anti aircraft missiles.

5) The chinese went up against Americans in Korea. They sent in 300 thousand infantry up against a much smaller American force. The key was that they only had rifles for about 1 in 5 personnel. So they would tell one to go as far as he could till he got shot, then the 2nd one would pick up the rifle & keep charging, and so on. Today, every one of those infantrymen has an automatic rifle. They are not as well equipped as their US counterparts but they can afford a lot of casualties. Vietnam, Iraq, Somalia and other engagements proved that you can’t replace feet on the ground with air superiority. No matter how advanced the air force is nor how many smart bombs get dropped, the US won’t be able to dislodge a standing army without sending in massive troup numbers and experiencing casualties. If our press made a big deal about losing 1000 US soldiers in Iraq, they’ll have a heydey with 500 thousand casualties. Seeing the press reaction emboldens the Chinese.

6) China is building a blue-water navy including submarines. They might be able to achieve a standoff in the surrounding ocean, limiting the ability to resupply american troups while the chinese troups will pillage Taiwan. Once America loses 2 nuclear powered aircraft carriers (with the resulting radioactive plumes), the calculation is that the U.S. will lose stomach for more fighting.

7) The trick to defeating these strategies with minimal casualties will be special forces operating in Taiwan. They will need to have the ability to direct standoff weapons fire onto individual tanks and squad units in order to be effective.

8) The most likely outcome will be that Taiwan will be a giant pile of rubble. Casualties could run as high as WWII. If China wins, it could be a Pyrrhic victory. If the US wins, it will take a whole generation to repair and rebuild. I think the Chinese view towards weakness or perceived weakness is a little bit like how Germany viewed the U.S. after we sent 10,000 men wandering in the hills to find Pancho Villa, to no avail. The Germans perceived it as weakness and went ahead with their war plans.

9 posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:47:37 PM by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)

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7 posted on 06/11/2010 12:03:08 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Mullen can send over his Gay Brigade

Maybe they will chat them up to death


8 posted on 06/11/2010 12:09:52 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: sonofstrangelove

Mutual Assured Destruction is our only defense! Of course we can default on our debt but they will be coming for their collateral!! You can thank Dick Nixon!


10 posted on 06/11/2010 1:09:01 AM PDT by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

“Duh”


11 posted on 06/11/2010 1:14:31 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Well gosh Admiral, what do YOU think the ChiComs might be planning with such a military buildup?

Let's see, they want to be able to throw bigger and more impressive military parades? Noooo, that couldn't be it.

How about using the expanding Chinese Navy like a Communist Carnival Cruise Lines? All those hard working Chinese capitalists err, peasants need vacations too! No, that's not it.

Let's really think outside the wok box now...

Do ya think Admiral, it might have anything to do with not only their desire to annex Taiwan (being that 'renegade' province ya know?), or perhaps it has something to do with Chinese school children being taught that the proper name for Australia, is actually 'New China'?!?

The ChiComs in Beijing are planning the same sort of dominance in the Pacific that the Japanese attempted in the years leading up to Pearl Harbor, and beyond.

Except this time, Franklin D. 0bama will be waving the white flag before they launch so much as an observation plane from one of the incoming aircraft carriers.
16 posted on 06/11/2010 2:21:47 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: sonofstrangelove

I guess Mullen never bothered to read Mahan or Sun Tzu.


18 posted on 06/11/2010 3:51:39 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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