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Voters approve Prop. 14, open primary measure
SF Chronical ^ | Wednesday, June 9, 2010 | Wyatt Buchanan,Carolyn Jones

Posted on 06/09/2010 8:20:13 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Californians approved a measure Tuesday that will dramatically change how voters choose candidates in elections - and could mean that two Republicans or two Democrats would end up as voters' only choices in a general election.

Proposition 14, known as the open primary measure, will give every voter the same ballot in primary elections for most state and federal races, except the presidential contest. The two candidates with the most votes would advance to the general election, regardless of party affiliation.

Prop. 14 had the strong backing of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Lt. Gov. Abel Maldonado, who said it could help break the gridlock at the state Capitol by giving voters more control over who appears on the ballot.

"This sends a clear message that Californians are tired of partisan gridlock and dysfunction and want a system where representatives put what's best for California ahead of extreme partisan doctrine," the governor said in a statement.

The measure would apply to all legislative and state races, and it is not expected to increase the cost of holding primaries. It also eliminates write-in candidates from general elections and makes it more difficult for minor parties to gain official recognition from the state.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/09/MN0V1DNDMQ.DTL#ixzz0qMyXdCKA

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: maldonado; prop14
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VERY bad news.
1 posted on 06/09/2010 8:20:13 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

I was wondering about Freeper thoughts...this confirms it. This could and will be abused..shutting out good candidates by having crossovers from other parties to crash a primary...


2 posted on 06/09/2010 8:23:27 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: BenLurkin
What would we expect? Goes well with our senator and gubernatorial picks.

To imagine I've spent so much time on this board defending the dingbat voters in this state.

3 posted on 06/09/2010 8:23:55 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: BenLurkin

California is now stomping on the accelerator as they head over the cliff.


4 posted on 06/09/2010 8:23:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: BenLurkin
California voters again prove their intelligence does not rise to a sub human standard.

Must be the public skewls.

5 posted on 06/09/2010 8:27:13 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: SueRae
There are those here who favor open primaries. This is just my opinion.

A long time local TV lefty was ecstatic this morning as she crowed over the measure passing. I am not looking forward to a “choice” of voting for only Democrat candidates -- which is what to expect in this State.

The gridlock in Sacramento has been a good thing for this state.

6 posted on 06/09/2010 8:27:31 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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This was MALdonado's 30 pieces of silver for selling out the CA taxpayers last year when he was the LAST RINO to cross over and vote for the LARGEST state tax increase in US history.

FUAM!!!

7 posted on 06/09/2010 8:28:18 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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Why bother with primaries at all?

This is a general election followed by a runoff with the top two candidates.

8 posted on 06/09/2010 8:29:34 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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Republicans are already talking about using a caucus system to pick a single candidate to run in primaries. It's gonna be even MORE partisan in the long run. Caucuses produce "true believer" types not consensus candidates. The primary will become just round one of the general election!
9 posted on 06/09/2010 8:29:34 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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The "gridlock" has been about the only thing keeping the RATS from driving this state right off the cliff.

We're so screwed...

10 posted on 06/09/2010 8:29:40 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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So this could very easily have the effect of turning the state into a one-party regime (something already largely accomplished by gerrymandering). I suppose the remedy would be to pick candidates in party caucuses or at a party convention and not submit them for a broad vote.


11 posted on 06/09/2010 8:29:56 AM PDT by scory
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Si.
12 posted on 06/09/2010 8:29:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: skeeter

I voted NO and don’t know anyone who voted yes - must be all those fabulous State union workers.

The fact that those morons Schwarzenkennedy and Maldonado are in favor of it tells me it’s NOT good for the voters. Maldonado now faces that punk Gavin Newsome in the general for Lt. Governor.

Two Republicans on the ballot - yeah, right. Like that’ll happen in this state. More likely two Democrats.


13 posted on 06/09/2010 8:30:30 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To imagine I've spent so much time on this board defending the dingbat voters in this state.

Yep, that was a mistake.

14 posted on 06/09/2010 8:30:51 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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Yeah, but were you defending the moonbat voters? ;-)


15 posted on 06/09/2010 8:32:28 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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the only thing keeping the RATS from driving this state right off the cliff.

Dude, kalifornia's been off the cliff for several years. You just haven't hit bottom yet.

16 posted on 06/09/2010 8:32:37 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: SueRae

We have this in Washington State.

I don’t think it is as solidly pro-Donk as they hoped.
For one thing it assures that there are no Libertarians or Constitution Party (or Green, Socialist) candidates on the final ballot.

My take is that there are more right-leaning 3rd party voters than left, this sort of tends to push them into the R camp on election day.


17 posted on 06/09/2010 8:34:59 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: LouAvul

There are a lot of things about CA that have gone off the cliff, no argument there.

As for the political side...

I used to think it was teetering on the cliff, just waiting for that last little nudge to push it over the edge or for someone to reach out and pull the state back from the brink.

That nudge came last night.


18 posted on 06/09/2010 8:35:23 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: BenLurkin

Incompetent Clueless CaGoP voted out of existence.
Bad News?

There’s a silver lining to everything..


19 posted on 06/09/2010 8:36:39 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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I guess the democrats in California wanted to ensure their bankrupsy sooner? I can just see them voting in only democrats in primaries then you would have a choice between bad and worse.


20 posted on 06/09/2010 8:50:46 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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