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Scientists discover explanation for why the Universe exists
Yahoo News ^ | 05/20/2010 | Michael Bolen

Posted on 06/01/2010 12:39:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Something had to take up all that space ...


21 posted on 06/01/2010 12:50:39 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Would you hold my hand ... If I saw you in heaven ... to my angel in heaven)
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To: TheBattman

Mathematician, David Berlinski wrote an essay entitled : The State of the Matter, in his series on THE DENIABLE DARWIN. He is no creationist, Christian, or intelligent design proponent.

But all the more, those reasons demonstrate that criticism of Darwinism and secular materialism is not exclusively the domain of Christians and creationists.

Furthermore, Berlinski is both a well-read, worldly scholar (particularly in mathematical physics) and a wordsmith of the first order, making it a delight to read his tactful demolitions of the secular empire. He is particularly adept at exposing the scientific pretensions of people who claim they know things that equally honest and intelligent people can say they don’t know.

Here is one of his conclusions in the essay -— The State of the Matter, an excellent survey of the rise and fall of 20th century material physics:

“What implications in all this for the grand narrative of our times? Where do the arrows of explanation in the end point?

The plain truth—no trivial thing, of course—is that no one knows. It is odd and remarkable that in the face of theories that have proven inconclusive such as string theory, physicists that they must at once change the standards by which their theories are judged. When it is not possible to argue the facts, lawyers quite understand, then it is necessary to argue the law. In this the physicists have unwittingly drawn close to doctrines that previously they had rejected as frivolous. But neither physicists disposed radically to change the law, nor physicists disposed radically to reject the change, have made arguments that have persuaded the other side. And if they cannot persuade one another, surely it is unreasonable for either side to expect that they have persuaded us.”


22 posted on 06/01/2010 12:52:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Mich Patriot

GMTA. Yours just thinks quicker...

All that counting syllables on my fingers slows me down...


23 posted on 06/01/2010 12:52:44 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gov. Chris Christie (R) won the NJ-6 held by Rep. Frank Pallone (D) by a 15.5% margin!)
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To: theDentist

“To get to the other side!”


24 posted on 06/01/2010 12:53:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Mich Patriot
"Physicists have long wondered why the universe exists..."

>>Hell that's EASY...it exists for Obama to ruleTAX it!!!

25 posted on 06/01/2010 12:54:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, would it be possible to create very small accelerators where particles could bombard/split/bombard/split etc and create energy to fuel a vehicle?


26 posted on 06/01/2010 12:54:42 PM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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They found the answer to the ultimate question of life, the Universe, and everything?

I already knew that one.


27 posted on 06/01/2010 12:54:58 PM PDT by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: Greenbow

Ho boy.

Christianity pretty much outlines the requirements to blaze a positive path into the afterlife.

Modern Christianity - Accept Christ as your personal savior, repent of your sins, and become born again—The assumed aftermath of which is to live your life in a way that glorifies God and honors Christ’s sacrifice.

Other Christianity - Same as above but due X amount of good stuff too.

Catholicism - Same as the above two, but don’t commit this sin or that sin and make sure you tell your Priest what you did wrong so you can atone for it.

I can’t think of any off the top of my head that says “Interpreting the universe as 6000 years old and refusing to accept the possibility that God’s word uses metaphor and analogy on occasion to make a point” as a pre-requisite.

Sure, the Universe could be only 6000 years old, but it certainly doesn’t look that way. Of course, an all-powerful God could have created the universe in-situ and already aged, just like Christ turned water into already-fermeted grape-juice, but it’s just as possible that He didn’t.

In the end, arguing over this is just like any other internet debate - And even worse in a conservative forum because what it does is takes a group of people who should be united in purpose and injects a scism. A reason to NOT be united.

And for what? Does God give you more stuff when you die if you argue an opposing viewpoint on the age of the universe into submission?

Believe what you want, let others believe what they want, and turn all that confrontational energy into restoring this great nation into a God-fearing one...Even if half of it believes in an 8 billion-year-old universe that exists by divine fiat and the other half believes in a 6000-year-old-one created in the same manner.


28 posted on 06/01/2010 12:55:20 PM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: a fool in paradise

And on the other side, scientists are asking the universal question; “Why are there so many chickens here?


29 posted on 06/01/2010 12:55:34 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Greenbow
but Genesis is his unambiguous, inerrant log of creation.

Genesis is some human being's interpretation of what they believed God revealed to them. Hopefully, they got it right.

30 posted on 06/01/2010 12:55:47 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: SeekAndFind

Fascinating stuff. But honestly it does not really ‘explain’ why the universe exists. It does confirm that there is a tendency toward something being there, over nothing being there. So it is a nice response to Sartre who argued that the basic question in philosophy is why something exists as opposed to nothing.

But as an answer to “Why?” is it still gets an incomplete. But then I don’t look to science for that level of why.


31 posted on 06/01/2010 12:56:09 PM PDT by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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To: SeekAndFind

To progress dialectically until Social Justice is achieved?


32 posted on 06/01/2010 12:56:12 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Ha'aretz 'asher `avarnu vah latur 'otah, tovah ha'aretz me`od me`od!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Now I just want to know if the Universe is a male or female :)


33 posted on 06/01/2010 12:56:17 PM PDT by mainsail that
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To: SeekAndFind

According to The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy the answer is 42


34 posted on 06/01/2010 12:57:54 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Greenbow

Where does the 6000 years come from?

Many are mistaken that tracing generations in Genesis to Adam yields the number of years to creation. It does not, it yields the number of years to Adam’s expulsion from the Garden, a place where he and Eve were immortal beings, perhaps for billions of years inside the Garden.

We have no way of tracing the number of years to creation via the Bible. Many who have tried have been grossly mistaken.

And some so-called Chriatian societies that have in the past espoused a 6000 year or so old Earth made wrong assumptions and were clearly wrong, as much as they were wrong about the Earth as the center of the universe.

Human folly, even those that profess a belief in Christ, is universal. It does not make the truth of Christ’s purpose any less real that his followers can be so deeply flawed in character and thinking, even in professing a 6000 year old Earth. In fact it is expected that humanity will continue to err regardless of religious convictions, and it is expected that those blessed with wisdom will continue to wake up to the truth of Christ.


35 posted on 06/01/2010 12:58:56 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: Heavyrunner

No amount of “good works” will get you into the presence of God. Isa. 64:6.


36 posted on 06/01/2010 1:00:00 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Christian Conservative Black Man!)
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To: glorgau

God told Moses what to write in Genesis.


37 posted on 06/01/2010 1:00:59 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Christian Conservative Black Man!)
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To: ForAmerica
God told Moses what to write in Genesis.

Hence the phrase:

Genesis is some human being's interpretation of what they believed God revealed to them. Hopefully, they got it right.

38 posted on 06/01/2010 1:03:41 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: SeekAndFind
The new findings deviate from what is known as the Standard Model, the theory created in the 1970s to explain the complex interaction of sub-atomic particles.

Which is expected, just as Relativity deviates from Newtonian Mechanics. In case anyone is interested, the 1% number is much higher than expected. There have also been experiments in the past that have shown a bias toward matter, so the new findings aren't all that new. The title of the article is bit dramatic.

39 posted on 06/01/2010 1:03:53 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: ForAmerica

Don’t need to convince me, just saying some branches of Christianity point at the “Faith without works is dead” (James 2:20) verse to mean works are necessary also.

One of my Mormon friends uses this passage often when questioned on the “Do good stuff” clause.


40 posted on 06/01/2010 1:04:17 PM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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