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To: SmokingJoe

I’ve lived in the UK all my life. This 5 to 1 ratio is simply not the case. It wouldn’t be a problem if it was, but it is just not true. Now: 2 to 1, I could believe.

And the reason is illuminating: the toxic loser-culture that pervades the ‘African-American’ experience is much less of a factor in Britain: our Jamaican, Sierra-Leonian and other African-extraction citizens do not have such colossal chips on their shoulders. Or perhaps they don’t form 10% of the population and therefore don’t form such a powerful entitlement group - I don’t know.

We have other problems: and our entitlement underclass has its own demographic profile. We call it ‘Scotland’. But this self-selecting angry black underclass that refuses opportunity - that’s a uniquely American pathology.

Also: the mere existence of a political “Black Caucus” in the US political system - that’s a dynamic that just isn’t found in Britain.

Hope this was helpful. I’m not saying we’re better in the UK, I’m just saying we have different issues.


116 posted on 05/19/2010 11:35:59 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

Good post.....


117 posted on 05/19/2010 11:38:33 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: agere_contra
Also: the mere existence of a political “Black Caucus” in the US political system - that’s a dynamic that just isn’t found in Britain.

Hope this was helpful. I’m not saying we’re better in the UK, I’m just saying we have different issues

You should have learned from the US and not changed your immigration laws in such as way as to admit people who can NEVER assimilate into an Anglo-Saxon Cultural Framework. Are we (US & UK) having a contest to see who can have the stupidest immigration policy (laws)? It seems to be neck and neck.

Enoch Powell was right! Shout it from the rooftops!
124 posted on 05/19/2010 11:45:18 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: agere_contra
This 5 to 1 ratio is simply not the case. It wouldn’t be a problem if it was, but it is just not true. Now: 2 to 1, I could believe

I am not going to quibble about what the exact ratio is, since neither of us have exact figures right now, but I am going to bet its much higher than just a 2:1 ratio.
Unemployment amongst British blacks is much higher than amongst whites in the UK, and when blacks are employed, they have much lower paying jobs, and are hardly ever in executive positions. UK backs tend to live more in the council flats in the inner cities where crime is high, etc etc. The Guardian could do a whole series on these issues, but no, they'd much rather trash America every time.
I know the Guardian very well. I used to read that paper every day for years when I lived there. They are more anti-American than any newspaper I have ever seen, and I am fed up with their nonsense.

And the reason is illuminating: the toxic loser-culture that pervades the ‘African-American’ experience is much less of a factor in Britain: our Jamaican, Sierra-Leonian and other African-extraction citizens do not have such colossal chips on their shoulders”

Look, we have had at least nine African Americans who have been CEO’s of Fortune 500 companies, including the CEO's of some of our biggest companies, like American Express and Xerox Corporation, two of Americans most prestigious companies. As far as I can recall, I have never seen any black guy head any of Britain's top companies before, not the FT 100 companies.
As for the Jamaicans in Britain you are going on about, I still remember them carrying out some serious riots in Brixton(South London), because they thought the British police were too racist and had been harassing them. Both the US and the UK have had issues with race, but to hear the Guardian tell it, America is the racist country.

144 posted on 05/19/2010 12:13:18 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: agere_contra
Also: the mere existence of a political “Black Caucus” in the US political system - that’s a dynamic that just isn’t found in Britain

Yeah?
Ever heard of a guy called Bernie Grant aka “the high priest of conflict”, who also just happened to be a Labour MP?
Guy was one of the biggest demagogues I ever saw.
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't this guy regularly demand special “black sections’ within the Labour Party?
They didn't call him “Barmy Bernie” for nothing.

150 posted on 05/19/2010 12:22:37 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: agere_contra
And the reason is illuminating: the toxic loser-culture that pervades the ‘African-American’ experience is much less of a factor in Britain: our Jamaican, Sierra-Leonian and other African-extraction citizens do not have such colossal chips on their shoulders

Because Jamaicans etc. have a strong culture of their own, a positive one. And the Caribbean immigrants to the US also do not have the same issues African-Americnas have.
253 posted on 05/20/2010 6:38:21 AM PDT by Cronos (Origen(200AD)"The Church received from theApostles the tradition of giving Baptism even to infants")
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