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Reaction to tragedy showcases changes in Polish-Jewish relations
JTA ^ | April 20, 2010 | Ruth Ellen Gruber

Posted on 04/20/2010 12:51:53 PM PDT by lizol

Reaction to tragedy showcases changes in Polish-Jewish relations

By Ruth Ellen Gruber · April 20, 2010

ROME (JTA) -- The Jewish reaction to the death of Polish President Lech Kaczynski and dozens of other senior Polish officials in an air tragedy highlights a remarkable change in how the Jewish world views Poland.

The prayers, public statements and personal tributes, including a special remembrance during the March of the Living, were normal expressions of grief and solidarity for a close friend and ally -- in short, heartfelt sentiments that probably could not have been made 20 or even 15 years ago.

Poland looms large in the collective Jewish consciousness. Huge numbers of North American Jews trace their ancestry to Poland, and before World War II Poland was Europe's Jewish heartland. Some 3 million Polish Jews were killed in the Holocaust.

Until fairly recently, however, much of the Jewish world regarded Poland as little more than a vast, anti-Semitic Jewish graveyard. These attitudes were exemplified in 1989 by Israel's then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, who famously declared that Poles "suck in" anti-Semitism "with their mother's milk."

Today, however, Poland is one of Israel's best friends, and Jewish leaders hailed Kaczynski and others on the doomed plane for their dedication in helping write a new chapter in Polish-Jewish relations. Kaczynski was buried Sunday.

This change in Jewish attitudes by no means came overnight. It was the fruit of a deliberate, sometime rocky post-communism Polish policy aimed at convincing the Jewish world that Poland -- and Poles -- could be trusted partners.

This included organized outreach, Poland's emergence as an ally of Israel and extensive Polish interaction with international Jewish organizations on both a formal and informal basis. In 1995, the Polish government even established the unprecedented post of roving ambassador to the Jewish Diaspora to foster contacts and provide a conduit for communications.

Meanwhile, lacerating public debates in Poland over anti-Semitism and the Polish role in the Holocaust, sparked by several books and films, also demonstrated to the Jewish world a willingness in Poland to tackle these troubling issues.

"Jewish attitudes became more positive as the world began to recognize Poland as a modern democratic nation rather than the apocryphal place of our ancient sufferings," says Michael Traison, a Jewish American lawyer who has maintained an office in Poland since the mid-1990s. "And attitudes were impacted by the growth of information flowing out of Poland to the Jewish world as people learn that 'Am Yisrael chai' [the Jewish people lives], even in Poland."

Jewish figures themselves played key roles by demonstrating their own openness to Poland and highlighting the revival of contemporary Jewish life in the country.

Shevach Weiss, a Polish-born Holocaust survivor and former speaker of the Israeli Knesset, became a popular and even beloved figure among locals as the Israeli ambassador to Poland from 2000 to 2004.

I'll never forget seeing him plunge into a crowd of 10,000 frenzied fans, most of them Catholic Poles, who crammed into the main square of Krakow's old Jewish quarter, Kazimierz, for the final concert of the annual Festival of Jewish Culture in 2002.

The Krakow Festival and the new Museum of the History of Polish Jewry under construction in Warsaw also have won enthusiastic American supporters. Poland's American-born chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, has been tireless in spreading the word that a small but living Jewish community exists in Poland.

Organizations such as the San Francisco-based Taube Foundation and the American Jewish Committee now make it a point to bring Jewish groups to Poland not just to commemorate the Holocaust but to take part in Jewish cultural events and meet local Jews and Catholic Poles.

"The story of Judaism in Poland did not end with the Holocaust," promotional material for Taube-led tours says.

What all this means is that after decades of looking at Poland through a lens tinged darkly with tragedy and distrust, Jewish leaders increasingly are willing to demonstrate belief that Poland has changed. Or at least is changing.

To be sure, this does not mean that Polish anti-Semitism has vanished; on the contrary. It does recognize, however, that other forces are in play, too.

To someone like me, whose relationship with the Jewish experience in post-Holocaust Poland goes back nearly 30 years, this change of attitude is as dramatic as it is welcome. It remains to be seen, though, how far it has trickled down.

An American Jewish friend here in Italy, who first told me the news about Kaczynski’s death in the plane crash, was surprised when I expressed dismay.

"I don't know anything about him except that he's an anti-Semite,” my friend said.

An Israeli Facebook friend wrote: "I wish that Poles -- who indeed suffered a grievous loss in the plane crash that killed its leadership -- felt the same sense of loss over the 3 million Polish Jews murdered in their country, often at the hands of the Polish people."

Still, I was moved and encouraged by the homage paid to Kaczynski by the 10,000 participants of this year's March of the Living, the annual youth gathering that commemorates Holocaust Remembrance Day with a ceremony at Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Back in 1994, when I was the cultural guide for a March of the Living group, the youngsters I was with spent their last evening in Poland acting out anti-Polish skits. Their handbook took for granted that the youngsters would feel nothing positive toward local Poles.

"We will hate them for having participated in atrocities, but we will also pity them for their woeful living conditions today," it read.

But at this year’s March of the Living, young participants wore black armbands to honor Kaczynski and the other crash victims.

"We join our Polish brothers and sisters in their time of sorrow, and express our deepest sympathies for their loss," a statement from the March of the Living said. "Our thoughts, hopes and prayers are with them during this difficult time."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: israel; jewish; kaczynski; poland

1 posted on 04/20/2010 12:51:53 PM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 04/20/2010 1:02:44 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
Poland was as much a victim of the Germans as were the Jews during WWII.Many atrocities took place in Poland and many Poles,particularly Jews,were victims of them but Poland herself cannot be blamed.
3 posted on 04/20/2010 1:05:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Righteous_Among_the_Nations


4 posted on 04/20/2010 1:11:18 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU

Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Righteous_among_the_Nations


5 posted on 04/20/2010 1:16:34 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: lizol
"I wish that Poles -- who indeed suffered a grievous loss in the plane crash that killed its leadership -- felt the same sense of loss over the 3 million Polish Jews murdered in their country, often at the hands of the Polish people."

Weren't there an equal number of Polish Catholics murdered by the Nazis? Many of them Priests and Religious.

6 posted on 04/20/2010 1:23:50 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: lizol

“I wish that Poles — who indeed suffered a grievous loss in the plane crash that killed its leadership — felt the same sense of loss over the 3 million Polish Jews murdered in their country, often at the hands of the Polish people.”

They did - 60 years ago. And they weren’t murdered by the Poles, but by the Nazis. In case that rocket scientist didn’t know, the Nazis invaded and occupied Poland for more than 5 years.


7 posted on 04/20/2010 1:32:32 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yes. Strange how Israel so often forgets about them or discounts their suffering.


8 posted on 04/20/2010 1:33:17 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998

Indeed. It’s not that we don’t sypathize with the Jewish families who lost members in the Holacaust, it’s just that I don’t understand why all the Catholics, Gypsies, Protestant Christians who lost their lives can’t be equally revered.


9 posted on 04/20/2010 1:40:52 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The Roma I'm sympathetic to; I think they're overlooked because of the relatively small number of them.

As for Protestants and Catholics, neither one of them was targeted for complete extermination the way the Jews were, nor did either suffer the lost of a third of their people.

Shalom.

10 posted on 04/20/2010 2:19:51 PM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman

I hear you, except that many of the Protestants and Catholics targeted for extermination were targeted because they were trying to HELP the Jews by hiding them or aiding their escape. It has always puzzled me why Jewish organizations seem to bend over backwards to ignore their existence.

After all each death exterminates that individual, and most likely exterminates that family. Surely that counts too.

I could not understand why Jewish organizations fought to prevent a convent of nuns from praying at one of the extermination camps for members of their order, and all the other sould too, who lost their lives at that location a few years back. Surely, praying for a deceased individual, or group, does not diminish the loss of another group.

We cannot deny what happened in history.


11 posted on 04/20/2010 2:42:40 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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12 posted on 04/20/2010 3:39:56 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
It has always puzzled me why Jewish organizations seem to bend over backwards to ignore their existence.

They don't. (Well, some of the secular, left-wing groups do.) However, one thing you fail to realize is that for every Christian who risked himself to save a Jew, at least ten went along with the program by turning a blind eye to it, blocking Jews from escaping to other "Christian" countries (including this one), etc. Heck, there are stories of Jews who were killed by their allegedly Christian neighbors before the Nazis ever arrived or--worse yet--after the War, when they tried to return home.

The courage of the few who deserve the Christian title is memorialized in the Garden of the Righteous Among the Gentiles and numerous books on the Holocaust. But when the vast majority demonstrated utter moral cowardice and even depravity, do not dare try to equate the fate of Christians in WWII to the fate of Jews.

European Jewry was decimated by guns, gas, and ovens. European Christianity has been decimated by its own spiritual decreptitude.

Surely, praying for a deceased individual, or group, does not diminish the loss of another group.

Because they are very leary of those who try to minimize Jewish suffering in the Holocaust by saying, "Hey, we suffered too!" That may not be what the nuns intended, and the Jews in question may have been overreacting (I don't know; I've not even heard the story), but with Europe exploding in Holocaust-denying, self-pitying anti-Semitism, the Jewish mindset is perfectly justified.

Shalom.

13 posted on 04/21/2010 6:41:44 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
with Europe exploding in Holocaust-denying, self-pitying anti-Semitism, the Jewish mindset is perfectly justified.
It definitely is not I'm afraid. :) Not as long as you put Poland in the same bag as whole Europe during WWII. Poland was the only country where protecting Jews was automatic death sentence to family hiding Jews and their neighbours very often (as they must have known). That was because only in Poland could Jews find peace for several centuries (since XVth cent. if I recall correctly) and they had become part of the dominantly catholic Polish society.

But when the vast majority demonstrated utter moral cowardice and even depravity, do not dare try to equate the fate of Christians in WWII to the fate of Jews.
Does this also apply to Jews that actively helped Germans kill other Jews and Christians?

You seem to forget that these kind of things happend (Sonderkommando)
14 posted on 04/21/2010 7:29:07 AM PDT by Verdelet (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!)
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To: Verdelet
Not as long as you put Poland in the same bag as whole Europe during WWII.

I personally am not. My ancestry is part-Polish. I love the Polish people. But that's not what we were talking about. You were trying to equate the suffering and death of a relatively few number of Christians to the attempt at annilation of the Jewish people, which resulted in the death of 1 out of every 3 Jews in the world.

It's a false equivalency, and one that ignores how many Christians were complicit in the Holocaust. And it's because of that sort of thing that so many Jews are very jealous of attempts by Christians to claim the Holocaust as their own.

Shalom.

15 posted on 04/21/2010 8:24:07 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
I understand your point of view, but still it saddens me that Jews seem to see Poland only as the land Shoah. Many times I've heard that Poles were as much responsible for Holocaust as Germans, since concentration camps were built on Polish land.
Not many Jews understand that:
a) Poland did not exist at that time (a.k.a.) 4th partition of Poland
b) Poland had a huge Jewish society


Point b) is crucial here.

Many Christians are very jealous of attempts by Jews to claim the Holocaust as their own. It was a tragedy for both Christians and Jews, no doubt about it. But when we hear about it we hear only about Jews. Nothing about Christians.
When Jewish kids are told about Holocaust are they told about Irena Sendler or Jan Karski? about Żegota?. About Witold Pilecki? I don't think so.
This builds a false picture of Polish antisemitism.
I hope my post is understandable. It's hard to choose proper words in such a subject. Also, I must say my attitude might be a little biased since I've got special feelings for Jews. Thanks to them my lovely home town prospered so much. They don't call it The City of Four Cultures for nothing :)
16 posted on 04/21/2010 11:36:35 PM PDT by Verdelet (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!)
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To: Buggman

“a relatively few number of Christians”

Hitler considered the Slavs as Untermensch - or sub humans and it is documented that his “expressed” plan was to kill 45 million Slavs (mostly Christian) that were living in his “Living Space”.

http://books.google.com/books?id=1AbmOu-FRisC&pg=PA45&lpg=PA45&dq=hitler+living+space+ukrainians+poles+genocide&source=bl&ots=UINjZgpJzU&sig=7i2WHkh8JddgMMpIVmV_CjLCh7I&hl=en&ei=G0TQS9rqB4iY8ASb1-Ek&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CB0Q6AEwCA

He did a pretty good job of attaining that goal - about 19 million Poles, Ukrainians, and Russians were killed during WWII - mostly Christian.

http://www.infoukes.com/history/ww2/page-29.html

In fact the war correspondent Edgar Snow made the following pitch to rename World War II.

“The whole titanic struggle ...was first of all a Ukrainian war. No fewer than 10,000,000 people had been ‘lost’ ...That excluded men and women mobilized for the armed forces. “

Of course, this does not compare with the Shoah but lets not lose sight of the fact that Hitler did target and murder a greater number of Christians.


17 posted on 04/22/2010 5:54:24 AM PDT by BloodnGuts
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To: BloodnGuts

Here is another excellent read on the subject of the huge number of innocent Christian slavs that Hitler targeted and murdered (noncombatants).

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0781809010/holocausforgotte


18 posted on 04/22/2010 6:02:19 AM PDT by BloodnGuts
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To: Verdelet
I understand your point of view, but still it saddens me that Jews seem to see Poland only as the land Shoah.

You didn't read the article, did you?

19 posted on 04/22/2010 6:11:52 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
I did, which does not change the fact that my personal experience shows that for Jews Poland = Shoah

Until fairly recently, however, much of the Jewish world regarded Poland as little more than a vast, anti-Semitic Jewish graveyard. These attitudes were exemplified in 1989 by Israel's then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, who famously declared that Poles "suck in" anti-Semitism "with their mother's milk."

Fairly recently... duh

You are still not answering my questions :)
20 posted on 04/22/2010 9:55:10 AM PDT by Verdelet (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!)
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