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Area 51 vets break silence: Sorry, but no space aliens or UFOs
The Seattle Times ^ | 3/27/2010 | Erik Lacitis

Posted on 03/28/2010 8:18:46 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

After nearly five decades, guys like James Noce finally get to tell their stories about Area 51.

Yes, that Area 51.

The one that gets brought up when people talk about secret Air Force projects, crashed UFOs, alien bodies and, of course, conspiracies.

The secrets, some of them, have been declassified.

Noce, 72, and his fellow Area 51 veterans around the country now are free to talk about doing contract work for the CIA in the 1960s and '70s at the arid, isolated Southern Nevada government testing site.

Their stories shed some light on a site shrouded in mystery; classified projects still are going on there. It's not a big leap from warding off the curious 40 or 50 years ago, to warding off the curious who now make the drive to Area 51.

The veterans' stories provide a glimpse of real-life government covert operations, with their everyday routines and moments of excitement.

Noce didn't seek out publicity. But when contacted, he was glad to tell what it was like.

"I was sworn to secrecy for 47 years. I couldn't talk about it," he says.

In the 1960s, Area 51 was the test site for the A-12 and its successor, the SR-71 Blackbird, a secret spy plane that broke records at documented speeds that still have been unmatched. The CIA says it reached Mach 3.29 (about 2,200 mph) at 90,000 feet.

But after September 2007, when the CIA displayed an A-12 in front of its Langley, Va., headquarters as part of the agency's 60th birthday, much of the secrecy of those days at Area 51 fell away.

Advance warning to UFOlogists: Sorry, although Noce and other Area 51 vets say they saw plenty of secret stuff, none make claims about aliens.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: area51; cia; coldwar; groomlake; langley; mystery; nellisafb; nevada; planecrash; surveillance; ufo; usaf
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1 posted on 03/28/2010 8:18:47 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: Quix

thought you might want to see this.


2 posted on 03/28/2010 8:22:58 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: sonofstrangelove

Well, as glad as I am to know the truth from these folks, I am sorta sad that their were no alien sightings or wrecked ships to be spoken of, it would have been such fun to get into and share.


3 posted on 03/28/2010 8:23:51 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: Republic

oops-—grammar difficulties....’there were’ not ‘their were’. Duh.


4 posted on 03/28/2010 8:24:46 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

for later


5 posted on 03/28/2010 8:25:30 PM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: Republic

Well there is S4 which is not mentioned and not far from the Groom Lake Facility. You also need to remember that his work was probably compartmentalized.


6 posted on 03/28/2010 8:25:34 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The Kook to Kook AM crowd will be deeply saddened.

Just within this month, they did almost a whole program
with some ex military guy that had been stationed there.
Oh yes, he said, it is very real, and the little green men are deep in the bunkers at area 51, haha.


7 posted on 03/28/2010 8:25:49 PM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I wonder if this guy was ever featured in the Popular Science magazine?


8 posted on 03/28/2010 8:25:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: sonofstrangelove

hmmm...not familiar with your comment substance but believe it holds out a glimmer of hope for alien confirmation, right?


9 posted on 03/28/2010 8:26:47 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: Republic

There was no mentioned of work at Papoose Lake.


10 posted on 03/28/2010 8:27:17 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Don’t know anything about Papoose Lake, either. Dang.


11 posted on 03/28/2010 8:28:46 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Advance warning to UFOlogists: Sorry, although Noce and other Area 51 vets say they saw plenty of secret stuff, none make claims about aliens.

That's just what they want us to believe... And Obamacare will reduce the deficit.

12 posted on 03/28/2010 8:29:28 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: sonofstrangelove

My Dad admitted to me a little while ago that he had been to Area 51 when he was an Air Force Officer at the Skunk works in the 60’s.

I should have known it. He has a picture of an SR-71 on his wall...

...autographed by Kelly Johnson.


13 posted on 03/28/2010 8:31:33 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Republic

hey, this is just disinformation! Don’t you know, they’re not going to come out and just TELL you about the secret stuff;)


14 posted on 03/28/2010 8:33:24 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: sonofstrangelove

I was there a few times in the early ‘80’s. About all I can say is there were “weird looking things”.


15 posted on 03/28/2010 8:34:11 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Republic

my sister knew a guy who dated a girl who married completely different people who knew someone who saw a moose bite a papoose once


16 posted on 03/28/2010 8:34:27 PM PDT by advertising guy (Consumer Of Confiscated Liquers Czar)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I’ll stand by my close relative’s assertions who worked there . . . I forget the timeframe of his duty there, however.

Much appreciate the ping.

Interesting.

Thx.


17 posted on 03/28/2010 8:35:22 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: sonofstrangelove

* wink * wink *


18 posted on 03/28/2010 8:35:51 PM PDT by smokingfrog (Free Men will always be armed with the Truth.)
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To: advertising guy

gee thanks...most informative! Sounds like the real deal, very well documented and trustworthy information.


19 posted on 03/28/2010 8:36:38 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
The government has compartments within compartments. I don't doubt that these guys were never privy to some of the more, um, 'esoteric' stuff going on above their clearance levels, but I also don't doubt that they were telling the truth about what they were involved in during that era. It actually doesn't shed one photon of light on anything other than what has been accepted theory up until now. I'm not saying little green men exist; but regardless, these guys were nothing more than a legitimate 'storefront' for other happenings in their day.


20 posted on 03/28/2010 8:37:22 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Where the hell can I get a court injunction to keep my own government out of my life?!?)
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