Not a high quality photograph, but here he is in action.
Posted on 03/26/2010 6:04:47 PM PDT by mlizzy
Amen.
Being one of only twelve official Church exorcists in the United States today, Fr. Euteneuer surely knows what he’s talking about in regard to the devil’s workings.
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There are so many things I learn from reading FR that I know I won’t see anywhere else.
:-)
Of course, do you condemn across the board, or just producers of cartoons?
If removing a feeding tube results in death, it is removing life support. Or do you reserve the right to decide logic as well? Like I said, it’s pointless arguing where facts are overruled by supposition and emotion. So I won’t. These decisions are being made every day by someone and we should all take responsibility for ourselves and make our own wished known in a legal and binding way to avoid such burdens and controversy.
What was alarming and vicious was not people who didn’t want to see her murdered more cruelly than is allowed with animals, but the fact that her legal in name only husband was allowed by a corrupt government and judiciary to carry out his very public murder. And second, that callous humans such as yourself see it bass-ackwards.
People with no morals love to throw out the epithet “self-righteous” at anyone with morals. You aren’t using the term correctly, at all. What you really mean is that people who don’t want to see humans murdered because they are helpless make you feel angry and hateful and so you toss out insults like froth coming from the jaws of a mad dog.
Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing (except revealing your own viciousness).
Your comment shows that either:
(A) You really know nothing about what happened.
or
(B) You are just a deathbot.
No third option.
People here - some on this thread - read hundreds of articles, interviews, doctor’s reports, family reports, etc of Terri Schiavo and are probably more well-informed than just about any other bunch of people.
Everything you said in your comment is an ignorant lie.
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What you said just now was fine, though.
Anyone who cares don’t watch it. If you have let them know you have stopped. Let the advertisers know also.
I was only trying to be polite and let you know I read your hopefully cathartic rant. I stumbled into a cult like thread, which happens here from time to time. I find it interesting and worthwhile to see what people devoted to a particular thread over many years have to say when you challenge them. No disrespect intended, but inevitable. I learn things that way. Fanaticism makes the world go round, for good or ill and on balance, those who are fanatical on the issue of life do good, in my estimation, for whatever that is worth. But it blinds them to truth as fanaticism always does, because truth isn’t nearly as black and white as they have come to imagine. I do admire the passion. Extremism in the lame of Liberty is no vice, to steal one hell of a good quote.
The air up there must be so thin, you’re not getting enough oxygen to the brain.
It's not quite so black and white. She was unable to feed herself, so they fed her, which kept her alive. If that's life support, then feeding old people and babies is keeping them on life support too, which by your logic makes them subject to having their life support removed.
You could argue that her case is different because she was brain dead, but that's a whole different argument. I didn't follow the Shiavo case but as far as I know her doctors never determined that she was braindead. So if your position was to pull the tube, then you are on far shakier ground trying to justify it that way.
What is irritating about your comments is that:
1) It's obvious that what really bugged you about people complaining about the cartoon is that they took a position on the Shiavo matter that you didn't like, and that complaining about the cartoon was your way of expressing that. You acted like some champion of the principle of free speech, but you would have said nothing if the cartoon had been about something else.
2) You sound like a libertarian, and libertarians are intrinsically irritating. I know this from the inside because I once was one.
OK, I brushed up on the case and will refer to the facts rather than making stuff up like most on here seem to do with zeal.
The court documents refer to her feeding tube as ‘artificial life support’. Feeding a baby or helping elderly to eat without inserting a tube in their stomachs and pumping nutrients isn’t the same thing except in the most general of definitions-— and then only if you delete the modifier ‘artificial’. It’s a silly point you are trying to make, but I did fail to add ‘artificial’ in my statement, so you get to make it.
At least 6 doctors are referred to in the court documents saying she was in a ‘persistent vegetative state’. 2 doctors testified she was in minimally conscious state. The autopsy revealed she had irreparable brain damage to all areas of her brain which had shrunk to more than half its normal size. No one has come out and even attempted a factually supportable claim that the autopsy results indicated she was anything other that in a persistent vegetative state with no hope of recovery of function.
No, my reaction was to the inability or unwillingness of others to recognize the target of the cartoon they completely mischaracterized along with the issues of free speech. I suppose I could have just left it at that, but when challenged as a death lover, death bot, etc. by people who throw out outright falsehoods and accusations of murder, my obvious lack of morals, etc., I stated my position on the public circus and interference in a private tragedy, which was the missed point of the offending cartoon. That’s what some of us are here for. Others want to reinforce their fantasies and won’t abide interference with their cult meetings devoid of concern for fact or decency. I came to the wrong place for reasoned discussion, obviously.
(2)I probably am closer to Libertarian than any other political philosophy, but I don’t hold to every position that party takes. Considering the state our county is in, such a philosophy probably is intrinsically irritating to most. That doesn’t make it wrong, does it?
Yours has to be among the most ironic tag line on FR.
Michael Schiavo does appear briefly as a character in the skit, but aside from mistakenly identifying a TV as one of the medical machines (probably a reference to his refusal to allow a TV in Terri’s actual room) I don’t think he comes off as an object of mockery. McFarlane is much more interested in portraying Terri as brain-dead and the pro-life protesters as morons.
Just when I thought I wouldn’t hear the last of the “Terri Wars” again...
This is where I stood on the Terri Wars, and where I still stand today.
There’s no reason in the world he couldn’t have just divorced her and handed off legal responsibility of her and her care to her parents and let them do the job in keeping her alive that they wanted to.
He didn’t have to have her murdered.
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