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Moving forward on health [Obamacare not perfect, but okay]
The (New Orleans) Times-Picayune ^ | March 24, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 03/24/2010 6:18:20 AM PDT by Ebenezer

The path to the sweeping health care act signed by President Barack Obama Tuesday was long, convoluted and fractious. The product is massive and complicated.

But the premise behind the Affordable Health Care for America Act is simple. As the president noted during the signing ceremony in the East Room at the White House: "Everybody should have some basic security when it comes to their health."

They should, and a nation as bountiful as ours should make sure that everybody does.

The act signed Tuesday is imperfect, but it provides vital benefits to tens of millions of Americans. The bill will extend coverage to an estimated 32 million people who currently lack insurance, in part by giving small businesses tax credits, beginning this year, to help them provide coverage.

Most of the major insurance reforms will take effect in 2014, but as of this fall health plans will no longer be able to deny coverage to children who have pre-existing conditions. People who lack insurance because of illness will have access to a temporary insurance pool starting this summer. Other consumer-friendly provisions will go into effect this fall, including the lifting of lifetime caps on insurance coverage and a prohibition against health plans dropping people when they get sick. New health plans will have to offer free preventive care as of September, and young people will be able to be covered by their parents' health plan until age 26.

(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: democrats; editorial; enemedia; healthcare; healthcarereform; liberalmedia; louisiana; mediabias; msm; neworleans; obamacare; obamedia; socialism; socialisthealthcare; socializedmedicine; thetimespicayune; timespicayune; tyranny
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1 posted on 03/24/2010 6:18:20 AM PDT by Ebenezer
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To: lsucat; Roux; Pikachu_Dad; WFTR; chemicalman; abb; Liberty911; CajunConservative; LSUfan; ...

Pelican State ping


2 posted on 03/24/2010 6:19:43 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

And I suspect the primary beneficiaries will be from the 9th ward of New Orleans. Which, by the way, is a really good example of what the rest of the country will become if we don’t get off our collective @sses.


3 posted on 03/24/2010 6:22:42 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead)
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To: rrstar96
"The act signed Tuesday is imperfect, but it provides vital benefits to tens of millions of Americans...."

Excuse me but the act/bill provides nothing. The hard working people of America provide that through hard work and the subsequent confiscation of their labor by the federal government to give to those who sit on their butts!

4 posted on 03/24/2010 6:22:53 AM PDT by avacado
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To: rrstar96

If the premise is “Everybody should have some basic security when it comes to their health”, then the legislation is founded on an invalid premise.

One can get sick or have an accident and suffer compromised health or even death with or without health care, health insurance, or Obamacare.

Next premise?


5 posted on 03/24/2010 6:25:15 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: tgusa

Following up on your point about the residents of the 9th Ward, it shouldn’t surprise us then that a newspaper from a city with a large welfare-/government-dependent population sings the praises of the growing welfare state.


6 posted on 03/24/2010 6:28:17 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96
They should, and a nation as bountiful as ours should make sure that everybody does.

These leeches haven't figured out what makes a nation bountiful. I've personally helped many people get healthcare who couldn't afford it by donating to a nearby free clinic. This bill, besides being a socialist nightmare, feels like a kick in the face.

7 posted on 03/24/2010 6:28:24 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: All

Keep in mind this is not the entire state and this one editorial does not speak for it. Please keep that in mind when you are posting! Governor Jindal is against this, our Attorney General (a Democrat) is suing the Feds, and strong legislation has been introduced to penalize anyone trying to force citizens of this state to buy insurance. N.O. is virtually the only Democrat’s stronghold and I smell a ringer in this editorial. It doesn’t read like something by a non-partisan citizen (or even one with any common sense) - and certainly not from an average liberal. More like a statist drone.


8 posted on 03/24/2010 6:28:38 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: rrstar96

“...a nation as bountiful as ours should make sure that everybody does.”

Our nation grew that bountiful exactly because the value of work was not undermined by a socialist economy backed by a kleptocratic government.

Next proposition.


9 posted on 03/24/2010 6:28:56 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: rrstar96
The bill will extend coverage to an estimated 32 million people who currently lack insurance,...

BS. Not even according to Democrats.

10 posted on 03/24/2010 6:30:39 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: rrstar96

No surprise at all.


11 posted on 03/24/2010 6:31:03 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead)
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To: rrstar96
The act signed Tuesday is imperfect, but it provides vital benefits to tens of millions of Americans. The bill will extend coverage to an estimated 32 million people who currently lack insurance, in part by giving small businesses tax credits, beginning this year, to help them provide coverage.

It appears to me that we are spending a trillion dollars to accommodate the 12 million people who want, but cannot afford insurance. It is NOT 32 million! The taxpayers are paying tens of thousands of dollars per person for the uninsured.

In addition we are creating many more of what will prove to be incompetent, inefficient, and ineffective government agencies to oversee the total destruction of the best health care system in the world.

12 posted on 03/24/2010 6:33:51 AM PDT by olezip
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I agree that Orleans Parish is pretty much the only Democrat enclave in Louisiana (and look at what statist liberalism has done to it), so the editors of The Times-Picayune are the proverbial voices crying out in the wilderness. That being said, our fellow FReepers may appreciate reading the idiot editorial coming out from the local Old Media rag in favor of Obamacare.


13 posted on 03/24/2010 6:37:14 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: palmer

They should, and a nation as bountiful as ours should make sure that everybody does.

OK. Then where is my bounty? I am waiting on my bounty so I can give it to everyone who needs it. But, but, I have no bounty - I’m screwed!


14 posted on 03/24/2010 6:39:00 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: olezip

And how about all this about forcing people to buy health insurance? Take the Amish, for example. They are decent, hard-working folks who pay for their medical care (and most likely, all other goods and services) in cash and see no need to complicate their lives with credit cards and health-insurance policies. There is nothing wrong with their approach; why then require them and like-minded people to change it?

But then, this is the type of change the closet-socialist Obama champions.


15 posted on 03/24/2010 6:50:58 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

As long as it’s put in perspective. I’m sick of reading about how liberal LA is (NOT!) and how we are all just looking for handouts. Put it in perspective, people!! We are a SOLIDLY RED state - one of the few in ‘08 that gave us the creature in the WH. I won’t start naming states that wet themselves falling for this creature’s rhetoric, but can do so if needed. Nuff said!


16 posted on 03/24/2010 6:51:10 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: rrstar96

They aren’t being required to change it. The Amish have an exemption. Like-minded people do not. Once again, the equal protection clause should be raised...


17 posted on 03/24/2010 6:52:25 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: rrstar96

It was never about health care, it was about people control.

Govt. Health Bureaucrat; Ride motorcycle? We won’t cover you.
Govt. Health Bureaucrat: Fancy sports car? We won’t cover you.
Govt. Health Bureaucrat: Nice speed boat? We won’t cover you.
Govt. Health Bureaucrat: You own a gun?!!! We won’t cover you!!!!

Ya get the drift of what this crap is gonna do.

Those of us that work and produce, do NOT get up in the wee hours of the morning and bust our a$$es all day just so those that “don’t and won’t” can have so-called health care or whatever other freebies that they whim and so desire for that day.
IF you want a hand-out, go to the local clinic or church, but stay to he$$ away of forcing hard-working people to pay for it.
Mandating the people and forcing them at the end of a gun to pay for something is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. IF this mindset continues, at some point, we will rid ourselves of every last one of em....one way or another. Count on it.


18 posted on 03/24/2010 7:20:40 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: rrstar96
They should, and a nation as bountiful as ours should make sure that everybody does.

We are over 12 TRILLION dollars in debt...Bountiful? Not as I see it

19 posted on 03/24/2010 7:26:07 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: rrstar96

“...and young people will be able to be covered by their parents’ health plan until age 26...”

This is a huge problem.

Basically they are demanding that parents cover their children until the age of 26.

This adds a huge burden to any employers health care bill. Currently the limit is 21 years old - and only then if they are attending college.

If you are paying for your insurance directly, then you are being obligated to provide coverage for an adult.

The legislation reads that they check monthly -— so if you have a youngster who is covered by another plan and becomes uncovered, then the burden falls back on you... and YOU will be fined or jailed.

Am I reading this correctly?

Where does it state the prices for the plans.


20 posted on 03/24/2010 8:23:28 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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