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"20 Years Ago I Had an abortion" - 40 Days Update
LifeSiteNews ^ | 3/23/10 | David Bereit

Posted on 03/23/2010 4:06:18 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Rich Knight; trisham; Faith; xzins; P-Marlowe; Coleus; narses; Salvation; RnMomof7; cgk; ...
What kind of Christians applaud women who kill babies?

You seem to have a problem with verb tenses. The verb kill denotes an ongoing action, the verb killed speaks of a past action.

Why don't you try this question out:

What kind of Christians applaud people who killed Christians?

41 posted on 03/25/2010 9:21:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Rich Knight; trisham; Faith; xzins; P-Marlowe; Coleus; narses; Salvation; RnMomof7; cgk; ...
The entire theme of “Feminists for Life” is that women who aborted get to shirk responsibility for what they did and instead blame it on a man, blame it on society.

Is that so? If that is their "entire theme" then it shouldn't be difficult at all to provide proof.

Here is a link to their website to help you out:
Feminists for Life

You may also be interested in Rachel's Vineyard, they specialize in ministering to women (and men) suffereing from the aftermath of abortion.

42 posted on 03/25/2010 9:32:14 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Rachel’s Vinyard is an excellent site.


43 posted on 03/25/2010 9:37:27 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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What kind of Christians applaud women who renounce killing babies?

The kind of Christians Jesus asked us to be.

Read John, Chapter 8. Can you see the truth?

44 posted on 03/25/2010 10:04:56 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

You added the word “renounce”.

In so doing, you are not replying to what I wrote, but rather to the opposite of what I wrote.


45 posted on 03/25/2010 10:14:14 AM PDT by Rich Knight
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In so doing, you are not replying to what I wrote, but rather to the opposite of what I wrote.

Why are you so hesitant to answer the question I asked in post #41?

Here it is again:

What kind of Christians applaud people who killed Christians?

46 posted on 03/25/2010 10:16:11 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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That’s because what you wrote insinuated a falsehood. No one here is applauding the killing of babies.


47 posted on 03/25/2010 10:16:43 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: wagglebee

Not difficult at all.

Just for starters, from all of one minute at their site, http://www.feministsforlife.org/who/aboutus.htm

“If you believe that no woman should be forced to choose between sacrificing her education and career plans and sacrificing her child”.

‘forced to choose’ is clearly disclaiming responsibility for aborting for the woman doing so, instead claiming that she must have been ‘forced to’.

That is their entire theme.

And so, it was easy to illustrate.


48 posted on 03/25/2010 10:19:09 AM PDT by Rich Knight
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To: BykrBayb

What is being applauded is the women who have killed babies.

Shocking for pro-lifers to do that.


49 posted on 03/25/2010 10:20:07 AM PDT by Rich Knight
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To: Rich Knight

What is being applauded is the renunciation of killing babies.

Now, go read John 8, and see if you can find the truth in it.


50 posted on 03/25/2010 10:21:38 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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What kind of Christians applaud women who kill babies?

I think you're being disengenuous. They are applauding sinners who repent. That's a core Christian principle.

Nobody here is applauding the abortions, and you know it.

51 posted on 03/25/2010 10:22:13 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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Here is what YOU WROTE in post #39:

The entire theme of “Feminists for Life” is that women who aborted get to shirk responsibility for what they did and instead blame it on a man, blame it on society.

To substantiate that claim you have posted this from their website:

If you believe that no woman should be forced to choose between sacrificing her education and career plans and sacrificing her child.

And then you wrote:

‘forced to choose’ is clearly disclaiming responsibility for aborting for the woman doing so, instead claiming that she must have been ‘forced to’.

I think your problem may be one of reading comprehension. What Feminists for Life is saying is that NO WOMAN should EVER be forced to choose to sacrifice her baby.

NOTHING here says ANYTHING about "shirking responsibility".

52 posted on 03/25/2010 10:25:57 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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What is being applauded is the women who have killed babies.

BS!

Why are you so afraid to answer my simple question (it is almost verbatim what you wrote earlier):

What kind of Christians applaud people who killed Christians?

53 posted on 03/25/2010 10:27:56 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Rich Knight; wagglebee; trisham; narses; Salvation

We all bring our own experiences to this forum and they have some affect on what we believe. My experience is that many women regret their abortions, repent from their abortions, and go on to try to speak out against abortion. That’s my experience. I spend four days a week outside an abortion clinic. I have seen many women who are there to help who have suffered through many years of regret and heartache over their own abortions. I do not applaud them for their abortions, but I do honor their efforts to keep others from making the same mistake. Jesus is the one who forgives. If He has forgiven them, who are we to withhold forgiveness?


54 posted on 03/25/2010 11:57:56 AM PDT by Faith
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The point is that there is no such thing as ‘being forced to choose’ to kill a a baby.

Claiming that there is absolutely shirks responsibility for the women who abort, by claiming that they were ‘forced to choose’ to do so: by circumstances, by society, by a man, etc...

...which is exactly where Feminists for Life places the blame.

They do not hold women responsible for their own actions in aborting.

Which is the point, very clearly.


55 posted on 03/25/2010 1:47:07 PM PDT by Rich Knight
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To: Faith

Unrepentant = unforgiven.

Blaming others for one’s own wrong actions = unrepentant.


56 posted on 03/25/2010 1:48:30 PM PDT by Rich Knight
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To: wagglebee

Your question is regrettably nonsensical, as there is no relevant example of such at hand, nor anyone claiming the existence of such.

And it has no relevance to what I wrote: it certainly isn’t ‘almost verbatim’ to anything that I wrote.


57 posted on 03/25/2010 1:50:33 PM PDT by Rich Knight
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Claiming that there is absolutely shirks responsibility for the women who abort, by claiming that they were ‘forced to choose’ to do so: by circumstances, by society, by a man, etc...

...which is exactly where Feminists for Life places the blame.

A claim you have yet to substantiate.

They do not hold women responsible for their own actions in aborting.

Another false claim.

58 posted on 03/25/2010 1:51:13 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I’m suspect that it is unlikely that we will see any substantiation.


59 posted on 03/25/2010 1:54:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Your question is regrettably nonsensical, as there is no relevant example of such at hand, nor anyone claiming the existence of such.

And it has no relevance to what I wrote: it certainly isn’t ‘almost verbatim’ to anything that I wrote.

Nonsense. You are simply afraid to answer it.

Here is your original question:

What kind of Christians applaud women who kill babies?

And here was mine:

What kind of Christians applaud people who killed Christians?

60 posted on 03/25/2010 1:54:14 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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