Posted on 03/23/2010 10:49:42 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian
But Jamese777 - they never confirmed his birth in Hawaii; they either confirmed he had a birth certificate OR vital records maintained at Hawaii’s DOH.
I did not know, until two weeks ago, that Fukino had told Butterdezillion that Hawaii accepts foreign birth certificates and maintains them in their DOH vaults as vital records. Fukino even sent Butterdezillion the papers to prove that Hawaii does that - now isn’t THAT interesting!
I can’t even begin how disgusted I am with the lack of integrity among our populace. There was an enormous number of people who voted for Obama based merely on the color of his skin, not on the content of his character.
Point of fact: Obama’s initial SSN (1979 and associated with both his name and address of record) was at Occidental College, and it began 999-XX-XXXX.
Now, this type of SSN prefix is reserved for students who are foreign nationals receiving Federal student aid.
If he is a foreign national, then he is guilty of serious crimes against the United States.
If he is a U.S. citizen, then he is guilty of defrading the United States.
In either case, he is a criminal and shouldn’t be President.
And here’s just one of the times that Governor Lingle has referred to Hawaii as Obama’s birthplace. The context for this is that she was being interviewed concerning Hawaii becoming a more Republican state and hosting the Republican Party’s Winter Meetings: “This is a state that, as the President’s birthplace, holds enormous political symbolism for the Republican Party. “This was the place where the President was born, this is the place that represents the bridge between America and Asia-Pacific,” said Governor Linda Lingle to reporters last week.
http://www.frumforum.com/hawaiis-gop-resurgence
In my humble opinion, the best way to resolve this issue is via any prosecutor in the land being willing to subpoena Obama’s birth records. Thus far, none have been willing.
“She [Fukino] declared Obama to be a “NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN”...”
LOL!!
No one, absolutely NO ONE in Hawaii’s Attoney General’s office will substantiate her statement. Go ahead, telephone them, find out for yourself!
And as for Lingle, she’s a politician and we all know they lie - her own DOH won’t authenticate Obama’s COLBs. Those are the one’s posted on multiple internet sites, including the one originally photographed in Obama’s own campaign headquarters back in 2008.
With the SSN Obama used inititally at Occidental College in 1979 indicating he is a foreign national, we may have the sole example of Barack Hussein Obama II’s honesty.
You, my friend, are bending over backwards to be kind and open minded to a man who is doing everything in his power to rob you of every God-given liberty. Obama is not deserving of your defense.
Well at least you are now better informed that both Fukino and Lingle DID in fact declare Obama to be born in Hawaii. That’s more accurate than when you were denying those facts.
The Director of the Department of Health doesn’t work for the Attorney General so why would they need to substantiate her statement? The Department of Health is one agency of the Hawaii state government and the Attorney General’s office is another. I will note however that the Attorney General in Hawaii, Mark L. Bennnett is a Republican and he has independent subpoena power under Hawaii law. That means that he could issue a subpoena for Obama’s original birth records if he wanted to. Obviously he hasn’t done that.
Don’t try to kill the messenger. I’m reporting the facts as I understand them. When Obama’s opponents proceed on the basis of rumor and misinformation, it ultimately benefits Obama. “If you hit the King, you’d better kill him.”
It is an indisputable fact that since Dr. Fukino’s ORIGINAL statement issued in October of 2008, no court including the US Supreme Court has ruled in favor of any plaintiff that has challenged Obama.
Now if you want “bending over backwards” the Attorney General of Indiana who is a Republican defended Obama’s citizenship in the case of “Ankeny v The Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels” which was attempting to invalidate Obama’s electoral votes on the grounds that he is not eligible. The Indiana Court of Appeals found that he is eligible and dismissed the lawsuit.
” ...having been shot down already at two levels what chance do you think it has of being taken up?”
You might ask the New Haven firemen about that, and how agenda-driven judges populating various levels of the judiciary (think Sonja Sotomayer) can affect those lower level decisions.
The Court takes only @ 50 cases a year out of 6000+ petitions, so any case brought to it is fighting severe odds. HOWEVER, virtually every case brought there is brought because it has been shot down at two lower level courts.
The difference being that the New Haven firemen had their case heard and verdicts delivered by the court at several different levels before reaching the Supreme Court. There were cases to review. Hollister v. Soetoro was dismissed as frivilous at the first level, that dismissal was upheld at the next level, and the idea that the Supreme Court will pick it up after that and decide it shouldn't have been dismissed in the first place is ridiculous.
“Well at least you are now better informed that both Fukino and Lingle DID in fact declare Obama to be born in Hawaii.”
How cute and catty you are, avoiding the subject of Obama’s use of that 999 prefix SSN. As a Federal record it puts a lie to everything you’ve just written.
As for the courts, I haven’t brought them up for a reason: one cannot remove a usurper from a national political office except through Quo Warranto, and that is done through the District Court of Washington, D.C. People who are frustrated, who know he isn’t eligible to be in the White House, are ignorant about how it should be done.
Only the Congress of the United States of America is allowed, by the Constitution, to remove the President from office. High crimes and misdemeanors are handled by the Congress directly but in the case of a usurper, Congress delegated its authority to the District Court of Washington, D.C. There, a person with standing can file a lawsuit against a sitting President and force him/her to prove eligibility.
But Obama’s day is coming. There were 789 Chrysler dealers who lost their livelihood because of Obama. They have been grievously harmed and definitely have standing.
Now, Jamese777, keep that SSN 999-XX-XXXX in mind. Truth is the daughter of time.
I am curious. What proof of this is there?
All I have ever sen is claims that someone said it somewhere and as proof they provide a reference that someone said it somewhere and anyways, everybody knows that it's true.
Is there anything at all to back this up? Or is it just another “fact” pulled out of the air and repeated because it's emotionally satisfying?
Nope. This information has been included in court cases against Obama challenging his eligibility and is legit. That PI found that Obama has used a total of 39 SSNs since 1979, all associated with his name AND addresses of record.
(Think about it - how many people do you personally know who have more than one SSN?)
But as I’ve already said, those cases challenging his eligibility, such as the ones in Indiana and California, have been hopeless because the Judicial Branch cannot impeach or sue the President. Only Congress has that Constitutional power. The authority to challenge a usurper in the White House was delegated to the District Court, Washington, D.C., via Quo Warranto.
By the way, I don’t know where Obama was born, but circumstantial evidence, such as the SSN and Obama’s own behavior, indicate it might not be Hawaii. Remember, for a very small amount of money Obama himself could produce that long-form BC and silence every critic.
Ah.
That ‘39 SSN’ fallacy again. Figures.
Well, if that’s an example of your standard of evidence, don’t be surprised if you continue to get nowhere with this.
LOL! Only in your dreams.
It isn’t a fallacy when it’s the facts.
Facts, eh?
Well, good luck with that.
If any one wants to pursue the Obama Social Security number issue, that’s just fine with me.
The attempt at quo warranto is complicated by several factors: quo warranto can only be initiated by the Attorney General, Eric Holder, an Obama appointee or by the US Attorney for the District of Columbia, Ronald Machen, who is also an Obama appointee. If neither of them chooses to proceed, then quo warranto can be intitated by a third party with the permission of the DC District Court, but only in the US District Court for The District of Columbia which is one of the more liberal dominated district courts in the nation.
There are currently 2 Reagan appointed judges, 4 Bush appointeed, 9 Clinton judges and 2 Carter judges on that bench.
Millions of people have been duped into thinking Obama has proven where he was born or that he’s Constitutionally eligible to be president. Elvis got nothing on that.
A birth certificate is generally considered proof.
Millions of people have been duped into thinking Obama has proven where he was born or that he’s Constitutionally eligible to be president. Elvis got nothing on that.
“...the US District Court for The District of Columbia which is one of the more liberal dominated district courts in the nation. There are currently 2 Reagan appointed judges, 4 Bush appointeed, 9 Clinton judges and 2 Carter judges on that bench.”
Do you realize what you’ve said, that our justice system is corrupt?
Former Chrysler dealers whose contracts were ripped up on order of Obama and severely harmed by his actions, that these dealers would have no redress due to corrupt courts. Those dealerships were given to Obama supporters. And that is just the beginning of Obama’s version of “social justice”.
This means no justice - for anyone! - unless you’re an Obama boot-licker.
Do you realize what you’ve said, that our justice system is corrupt?
Former Chrysler dealers whose contracts were ripped up on order of Obama and severely harmed by his actions, that these dealers would have no redress due to corrupt courts. Those dealerships were given to Obama supporters. And that is just the beginning of Obama’s version of “social justice”.
This means no justice - for anyone! - unless you’re an Obama boot-licker.
When the issuing agency goes out of its way to avoid say a Certification of Live Birth is genuine, then that generally means it's fraudulent.
Again, why are we celebrating somebody who successfully gamed the system?? Fooling people isn’t a trait to be admired.
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