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Posted on 03/20/2010 8:47:07 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
Russia has carried out a series of efficiency drills for Tu-95MS Bear strategic bombers, an Air Force spokesman has said.
Lt. Col. Vladimir Drik said the flights were conducted in poor weather conditions over the Arctic from air bases in Engels in the Volga region and Ryazan located in central Russia.
"During three-day exercises, Tu-95MS Bear strategic bombers and Il-78 aerial tankers practiced various types of flight drills, including in-flight refueling," Ria Novosti quoted him as saying.
Russia resumed strategic bomber patrol flights over the Pacific, Atlantic and Arctic oceans in August 2007, following an order from then-President Vladimir Putin, the agency report said.
(Excerpt) Read more at brahmand.com ...
These were amazing planes in their time. A Bear is supposed to have a range of 10,000 miles without refueling.
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The Tu-95 is a classic, here is one being escorted by an F-14.
Today, the Tu-95 is still operational, primarily the Tu-95MS version that carries the Kh-55 (AS-15 "Kent") nuclear-armed cruise missile.
And nary a high-hour pilot that isn't stone deaf.
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It is amazing how efficient those counter-rotating props must be. One would think that the trailing blades would be quite inefficient “living” in the wake, but apparently this is not so.
So much for theory.
The Obummer Special, aka the Bearak Obomber
[Sing now, my children, “Oh Canada!”]
I’ve been told by folks who should know, that you could hear the counter rotating propellers of Mr. Bear, even at high altitude, while quite some distance from Mr. Bear. Must be deafening to the crew, especially those whose stations are aft of the engines.
A whole lot like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Like most all ruski mil junk, will work great against UNARMED civilians.
Still LOL about the Navy Subs being able to track this Bear air beater by sound track.
A whole lot like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Like most all ruski mil junk, will work great against UNARMED civilians.
Still LOL about the Navy Subs being able to track this Bear air beater by sound track.
A knife to a gun fight ....yes, it is. That is if you are talking about bringing a fighter against the Bear, at the engagement distances that occur during one of these intercepts. The fighter being the knife, the Bear being the gun!
After all, the Raptor's best missile (the AMRAAM) has a maximum range of 50km to 70 km (lower against a maneuvering target with high ECM). However, the Bear is definitely not a maneuvering target, and let's assume there is no jamming or the like ....thus we are assuming maximum range shot for the AMRAAM, with full pK in terms of its likelihood of hitting the target. Let's also assume a high altitude launch from a supercruising Raptor, which enhances the range of the AMRAAM by, say, 30-45%.
Well, the Bear would be carrying a number (maximum 16) of Raduga KH-55s, each with a range of around 3,000 kilometers, nuclear tipped. At 3,000 kilometers by the time a Raptor or Canadian CF-18 gets close enough the Bear will have launched its missiles a long time back.
You have to remember that the Bear was simply a missile launch platform ....once that was done it was expendable! Anyways, in the event of a nuclear war during the Cold War, there would have been no bases for it to fly back to to land! The moment it took off hot it was a one-way mission!
Too many people think about things in a linear fashion, and that is why on FR for instance it is common to hear how useless the 'Russian junk' is. Most of the people saying that base their statements on the performance of said 'junk' in the hands of third-world forces (e.g. the Yugoslavs, the Afghans, the Iraqis), without considering that were things reversed (e.g. the Iraqis flying F-16As with no real BVR, no jamming, no situational awareness) and the good guys flying, say, SU-30s, the outcome would have been quite different. I generally like to bring out what would occur was India to fly against Pakistan, with India having its SU-30MKIs and Pakistan its F-16A/Bs. It would be a slaughter on the Vipers, but obviously we know the Viper is one of the best fighters out there. You have to look at the enemy.
Anyways, on the junky Bear. It is a missile platform ...by the time it was even visible to the Raptor's AESA (with those props, and the huge RCS of the Bear, it would occur quite quickly) the Bear would have launched ALL of its KH-55s.
Furthermore, with the fact that this interceptions have started to occur often again, after a lull during the 90s when Russia was under the incompetence of Yeltsin plus did not have money flowing in from gas. That means we are getting used again to the Russians flying right next door, where we have the usual game of sending up fighters to take pictures and tell them off. Well, that could make a surprise attack easier ...the only difference is that the Bear would have to rely solely on the 6 Raduga missiles in its internal rotary system, and not have 10 more hanging on its wings. With the fact that they are allowed to get so close ....
Anyways, talking about knife fights, things are not always so linear. Maybe when one day a war needs to be fought against a near-peer adversary those lessons will be learned ....then again, with the US canceling the Raptor, I guess both the Democrats and Republicans (the canceling of the Raptor is shared between both) believe that fighting near-peer adversaries (like China) will never happen, just third-world nations totting Kalashnikovs and boinking camels.
Right?
A B-52 will practically circumnavigate the globe if you fill the bomb bay with fuel cells. If we took the B-52 and made a recon platform out of it we’d do it regularly the way the Bear does.
yeah spinnaz, you gotta a whole lot of assumin going on.
Anyone who thinks this big hunk of noisy bear poop is any closer to “High Tech” than a comic book is kidding themselves. The russians never have a problem trying to fool the masses,(apparently worked for you) just that if we look at historical combat between russian aircraft or most other russian mil equipment, the russian stuff ends up the loser, in mass.
Might be easier to peddle your stuff on another forum.
2. I did NOT say the Bear is high tech. It is a great prop plane, but in terms of tech it is many decades old. I was talking about the 3,000 kilometer range nuclear tipped missiles it carries! In terms of knives vs guns, the bear is the gun due to its very long range nuclear missiles vs Amraams that have a range of less than 100km even against a non-maneuvering non-jamming foe. Now, I said that in my prior post, but lacking a sage reply you could only through-put calling people Spinach.
3. About the performance of Russian material - I also answered that. Here is the remedial replay! If you look at Gulf War 1: you had the Iraqi airforce, flying planes that did not even have bvr missiles, had no awacs nor situational awareness, using GCI, no jamming, poor pilot training, and low in numbers - flying against the massed warforces of the US, various NATO nations, and others ...with full situational awareness, bvr capability, qualitative AND quantitative advantages! The end was a given. In much the same way that the Indian airforcea Sukhoi SU-30mki, with long range aams and backed by Phalcon awacs, would absolutely DECIMATE Pakistani F-16s that until quite recently did not even have bvr missiles. Most analysts claim the PAF would fold in less than 3 days, some claim a day. The Indian mostly Russian leadig edge would crush Pakistan's mostly US leading edge, yet we all know the Viper is an amazing airframe.
4. Posting on another forum? Well, for FR to remain the intelligent Conservative meeting of minds that it is, it does require people like me (logical thinkers) to mitigate emotional thinkers like you. Otherwise it would end up looking like DUmmie land, where everyone 'thinks' with their heart, with their head being 'pie hole support.'
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