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DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL: Hawaii considering law to ignore Obama 'birthers' (On Drudge now)
Drudge ^ | 3/17/2010 | rxsid

Posted on 03/17/2010 1:08:24 PM PDT by rxsid

On Drudge now, right side column...

"DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL: Hawaii considering law to ignore Obama 'birthers'... "


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; bhoscar; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; eligibility; fraud; fukino; hawaii; honolulu; ineligible; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; usurper; vexatious; vexatiousrequester
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The "eligibility" issue makes a rare appearance on Drudge.
1 posted on 03/17/2010 1:08:24 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: rxsid
He links to this story...

"Hawaii considering law to ignore Obama 'birthers'

HONOLULU (AP) - Birthers beware: Hawaii may start ignoring your repeated requests for proof that President Barack Obama was born here.

As the state continues to receive e-mails seeking Obama's birth certificate, the state House Judiciary Committee heard a bill Tuesday permitting government officials to ignore people who won't give up.

"Sometimes we may be dealing with a cohort of people who believe lack of evidence is evidence of a conspiracy," said Lorrin Kim, chief of the Hawaii Department of Health's Office of Planning, Policy and Program Development.

So-called "birthers" claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States, and therefore doesn't meet a constitutional requirement for being president.

Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued statements last year and in October 2008 saying that she's seen vital records that prove Obama is a natural-born American citizen.

But the state still gets between 10 and 20 e-mails seeking verification of Obama's birth each week, most of them from outside Hawaii, Kim said Tuesday.

A few of these requesters continue to pepper the Health Department with the same letters seeking the same information, even after they're told state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest. Responding wastes time and money, Kim said.

Both Fukino and the state registrar of vital statistics have verified that the Health Department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

The issue coincides with Sunshine Week, when news organizations promote open government and freedom of information.

"Do we really want to be known internationally as the Legislature that blocked any inquiries into where President Obama was born?" asked Rep. Cynthia Thielen, R-Kaneohe-Kailua. "When people want to get more information, the way to fuel that fire is to say, 'We're now going to draw down a veil of secrecy.'"

Nobody at the hearing questioned the fact that the president was born in Hawaii.

Attorney Peter Fritz asked why the state would pass a law punishing repetitive requests for open records. Instead, the state could simply say it would only answer each person's question once.

If the measure passed, the state Office of Information Practices could declare an individual a "vexatious requester" and restrict rights to government records for two years.

The committee will schedule a vote on the measure, said Chairman Jon Riki Karamatsu, D-Waipahu-Waikele."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100317/D9EG7MBO0.html

2 posted on 03/17/2010 1:10:20 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Then no further Hawaiians shall be eligible for the presidency.


3 posted on 03/17/2010 1:11:38 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ...
Ping.

"DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL: Hawaii considering law to ignore Obama 'birthers'... " story linked on Drudge.

4 posted on 03/17/2010 1:11:40 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

I don’t care what Hawaii does, our only responsibility to to see to it that our States are enforcing the Constitution as far as their responsibility and capability’s go.

To that end I am in full agreement with the State of Arizona in allowing anyone who wishes to run for president to prove their eligibility to state officials before being allowed on the State’s ballot and thus eledgable for the State electorate to vote for.

It does not and should not matter to us if other states want to throwaway their electors. We are not and can not be held responsible for their choices only that of our own.


5 posted on 03/17/2010 1:13:23 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: rxsid

“Responding wastes time and money, Kim said.”

Then print and publish the birth certificate and amazingly enough you will stop getting these requests, regardless of the place of birth may be.


6 posted on 03/17/2010 1:14:09 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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To: butterdezillion
FYI...

"DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL: Hawaii considering law to ignore Obama 'birthers'... " story linked on Drudge."

7 posted on 03/17/2010 1:16:37 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
So-called "birthers" claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States, and therefore doesn't meet a constitutional requirement for being president.

Some do, but I bet most fall into the camp that he isn't a Natural Born Citizen simply by the fact he wasn't born to two citizen parents. A legal loophole not all that different than the one that prompted congress to act on McCain's NBC status due to his Canal Zone birth.

8 posted on 03/17/2010 1:17:47 PM PDT by mnehring
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What so many of them continue to ignore, or are ignorant of, is that no matter where Barry was born...assuming Sr. is his legal father...he couldn't be a Natural Born Citizen.

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born). Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!


http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate based on the word of 1 relative. That is how a foreign born baby could get a HI BC on record, which in turn generates the "birth announcements" in the newspapers.

9 posted on 03/17/2010 1:19:10 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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But the state still gets between 10 and 20 e-mails seeking verification of Obama's birth each week,

I wouldn't exactly call this an overwhelming flood of requests for a well-staffed state bureaucracy to deal with. What's that, between 1 and 3 emails per day? Golly, gee, that really overhwhelms them with work!

And an email costs nothing to answer. Maybe one precious minute of a staffer's time.

Moreover, the "repeat" offenders are probably mostly those seeking not the BC itself, but seeking legitimate information, which the department is obliged to provide by law.

10 posted on 03/17/2010 1:20:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ...
Interestingly, ironically perhaps, there is another somewhat related story about Barry now on Drudge...right under the link found in the first part of this thread:

"New photographs of Obama's childhood in Indonesia emerge...

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That link goes here...

"Meet the 'chubby boy with the curly hair': New photographs of Barack Obama's childhood in Indonesia emerge

Grinning happily at the camera, this is Barry Soetoro, the cherubic little boy who went on to become America's first black president.

The charming images taken at a child's birthday party in Jakarta 40 years ago were released as Indonesia prepares to welcome Barack Obama back to the country for the first time since he became president.

The Asia-Pacific tour will also take in Australia and Guam and has been described as an 'extremely important trip' involving 'important partners', a White House spokesman said."

Continued:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/17/article-1258543-08BEC302000005DC-631_308x185.jpg

11 posted on 03/17/2010 1:23:19 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: massgopguy

ROTFL


12 posted on 03/17/2010 1:24:16 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Truthers to the Left of me, Birthers (pretending to be) to the Right of me!)
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To: Monorprise

I hate how the media says birthers don’t believe Obama was born in the US. Seems like we would be happy to see proof one way or the other..

People want to verify the eligibility of the president—from his long form birth certificate, to his college grades, dissertations, papers authored, etc. so that we can make an informed decision whether he belongs in the most powerful position in the world..


13 posted on 03/17/2010 1:24:20 PM PDT by adamjefferson
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To: rxsid

That Obama head looks like its photoshopped.I don’t believe any Obama photos I see from over 10 years ago.


14 posted on 03/17/2010 1:27:42 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Cyclone59

“Responding wastes time and money, Kim said.”

Well send the bill to bammy, its his intransigence that is causing you to loose money.


15 posted on 03/17/2010 1:28:05 PM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: rxsid

Thank you. That so many fail to understand the “natural born citizen” requirement just “blows me away” - a Michigan thing.
He can’t and never will meet the NBC requirement, Hawaii birth or not.


16 posted on 03/17/2010 1:32:51 PM PDT by mcshot (The government can't give without first taking away - and we're being robbed.)
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To: massgopguy

Then no further Hawaiians shall be eligible for my tourism dollars.


17 posted on 03/17/2010 1:35:49 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: rxsid

wouldnt it be easier to just show the dang certificate?


18 posted on 03/17/2010 1:36:55 PM PDT by MNDude (The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
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To: rxsid

Neckless?

19 posted on 03/17/2010 1:37:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: rxsid

My question to Gibbsy just now is Obama knew he used another name and did not place it on his license to practice law? Felony!


20 posted on 03/17/2010 1:37:54 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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