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A 16-hour flightmare
NY Post ^ | March 16, 2010 | JEREMY OLSHAN

Posted on 03/16/2010 1:05:31 PM PDT by stinkerpot65

They were supposed to be taking a direct flight from LAX to JFK -- but wound up on a 16-hour nightmare tour by air and bus of New York state. ...

"One guy said he had a question, and the flight attendant started shouting at this guy, 'You are really getting on my freaking nerves! You need to shut the hell up!' " Martin said.

He added, "Carrie Anne and I tried to bring cookies on the plane to the mothers with babies, and the flight attendants started snapping at us." ...

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: airlines; delays; flying; richardbranson; virginamerica
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Isn't false imprisonment a felony?
1 posted on 03/16/2010 1:05:31 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: stinkerpot65

You wanted De Regulation. You got it. Live with it until the government nationalizes the airline industry and it then gets worse.


2 posted on 03/16/2010 1:09:57 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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After seeing Martin's posts and videos the next day, Virgin America CEO David Cush called him and Inaba to apologize, promising a full refund and $100 credit to all passengers.

Too little, too late!

3 posted on 03/16/2010 1:13:09 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: Don Corleone
Funny, I've had to fly a lot for business and pleasure and I loved deregulation, cheaper flights more often, more competition. As soon as the TSA came alone, flying sucked.

Can't prove cause/effect, jus' sayin'.

4 posted on 03/16/2010 1:14:35 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Don't just pick between Bull Sh*t and Horse Sh*t, clean out the stable!)
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To: stinkerpot65

And the Muslim radicals are laughing themselves silly!


5 posted on 03/16/2010 1:20:24 PM PDT by Tucson Jim
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To: stinkerpot65

Sounds like the weather caused a diversion to an aiport with no real facilities for the pax.


6 posted on 03/16/2010 1:20:47 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Useless Airways started going downhill long before 9/11 and TSA. Poor management, high fares and thinking that its passengers are just cattle. USAir used to be able to do that with impugnity in Pittsburgh when it had a virtual monopoly on the gates. Now that there is competition, people are bolting for Southwest and the other carriers. But Useless still can’t figure out what’s wrong.


7 posted on 03/16/2010 1:21:36 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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I fly quite a bit on United, American, and Southwest. Lately I’ve had occasion to fly VirginAmerica three times this last year. They are by far my favorite airline in every category I can think of but particularly service. I’m surprised by this article but due to personal experience will write it off as an outlier. On an aside how anybody can suggest air travel was ever better is running uphill against so very many improvements. First and foremost for me is access.


8 posted on 03/16/2010 1:58:24 PM PDT by Bogeygolfer
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To: stinkerpot65
After seeing Martin's posts and videos the next day, Virgin America CEO David Cush called him and Inaba to apologize, promising a full refund and $100 credit to all passengers.

I read this expecting to be outraged.

But things were VERY rough here in the NYC Metro area on Saturday night. I might even be lucky to be alive. (Something hit my car, a falling tree branch probably, while I was driving home at 40 MPH, stupidly in the right lane.) Things still aren't back to normal. Today I met some folks for lunch normally about a 20 minute drive away. Lunch was well under an hour and I was away two and a half hours. It sounds to me as if the airline guy is trying to make good on something which isn't really the airline's fault.

ML/NJ

9 posted on 03/16/2010 2:01:51 PM PDT by ml/nj
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Sorry, but there is no excuse for forcing passengers to stay on a plane on a tarmac for seven hours, then not having enough snacks or even water. And snapping at the passengers is not a great way to boost morale and bring the customers back next time.


10 posted on 03/16/2010 2:10:08 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Bogeygolfer

Never flew Virgin...as I said, for years just about the only airline here was UsAirways (a/k/a Useless Air). We now have more competition, particularly from Southwest. I’ve flown Southwest several times and I have to say that in difficult situations (bad weather, problems with the plane, etc.), the employees have remained courteous, cooperative and helpful. Once I arrived at a gate to find a batch of passengers who were supposed to depart from that gate before my flight, but their plane was delayed. One of the Southwest employees came out and serenaded everyone with a ukelele. The guy sang like a rusty gate, but it was fun and certainly put the passengers from the delayed flight in a much better mood.

Now, Southwest doesn’t fly everywhere from here, but where it does, I will take SW over Useless Air.


11 posted on 03/16/2010 2:16:10 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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there is no excuse for forcing passengers to stay on a plane on a tarmac for seven hours, then not having enough snacks or even water.

Do you have a f*****g clue? The pilot made an emergency landing. Stewart isn't exactly Heathrow or O'hare. They probably don't have even have ten commercial flights out of there a day. Who the f*** do you think was going to come out there and service the plane, the Coast Guard? Some things the airlines do are reprehensible but this was not. If I were to fault them it would probably be for not heading further inland, to Allentown maybe, where the weather might have been less treacherous.

ML/NJ

12 posted on 03/16/2010 2:19:38 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: fatnotlazy
And how many CEO's give you a call to apologize for anything?

ML/NJ

13 posted on 03/16/2010 2:23:22 PM PDT by ml/nj
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You wouldn’t happpen to be an airline employee, would you?

This is a message board, no need to be so miserable to me. How about growing up before you write to me again?


14 posted on 03/16/2010 2:29:41 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Don Corleone
You wanted De Regulation. You got it. Live with it until the government nationalizes the airline industry and it then gets worse.


15 posted on 03/16/2010 2:40:35 PM PDT by TankerKC ("...wankerKC..." --agromination March 11, 2010.)
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To: stinkerpot65
"One guy said he had a question, and the flight attendant started shouting at this guy, 'You are really getting on my freaking nerves! You need to shut the hell up!' " Martin said.

He added, "Carrie Anne and I tried to bring cookies on the plane to the mothers with babies, and the flight attendants started snapping at us." ...


Flight attendants these days are completely out of control. Post 9/11 security concerns have given these people a completely unwarranted sense of power, which they use to intimidate passengers. The whole airline scene is a mess - I'll drive for up to 10 hours to avoid flying.
16 posted on 03/16/2010 2:43:06 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Do you have a f*****g clue? The pilot made an emergency landing.

It was not an emergency landing. So, ask yourself the same f*****g question.

17 posted on 03/16/2010 2:45:24 PM PDT by TankerKC ("...wankerKC..." --agromination March 11, 2010.)
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To: fatnotlazy
You wouldn’t happpen to be an airline employee, would you? This is a message board, no need to be so miserable to me. How about growing up before you write to me again?

No. I'm not an airline employee.

I am a pilot though. And in my time I've had to land a couple of times where I didn't want to land. I guess I just understand.

These days though, I'm just a peon like you sitting in the back of the bus. But I have as sense of right and wrong which you seem to lack. Maybe you'll acquire a bit of wisdom as you age.

As for this being a "message board," I think you'll discover that around here people who say stupid things tend to get trashed. If I were you I would apologize and move on.

ML/NJ

18 posted on 03/16/2010 2:53:25 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: TankerKC
It was not an emergency landing.

I guess you're not a pilot either. When you have to divert to your alternate (Do you know what an "alternate" is?) and the guy in the tower at the alternate tells you the winds are 35 gusting to 60, it doesn't matter whether you've declared an emergency. It is one. You have to come down, and you'd better know what you are doing.

And none of this has anything to do with whether there was anyone there who could service the plane or not.

Thanks for playing though.

ML/NJ

19 posted on 03/16/2010 3:03:08 PM PDT by ml/nj
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Diverting is not the same as an emergency landing.

And none of this has anything to do with whether there was anyone there who could service the plane or not.

My comment had more to do with you flying off the handle and asterisk cursing.

20 posted on 03/16/2010 3:09:45 PM PDT by TankerKC ("...wankerKC..." --agromination March 11, 2010.)
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